Do You Ever Argue With Them?

[oneshot]

I was after a guy shooting Deer from the road by my house. Agent caught him first.

Give him a Ticket for driving with suspended license.

Know a guy mad at all Agents because his Son got in trouble for shooting a Hawk off an ATV from the road.

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[fishinwrench]

25 minutes ago, ness said:

You should be with me during a sobriety check. I get right back on the road and sleep in my own bed 😄

Yeah I approached it that way too the first 4-5 times.   It gets old after awhile, and they do it all the freakin'time here around the Lake. 

License & insurance.  

Had anything to drink tonight?

Run you and all passengers for warrants. 

Is this your correct address? 

Sniff in your window. 

Flashlight in the eyes.

Any weapons in the vehicle? (and God forbid if you say Yes)

Where ya going?

Where ya been? 

Add 10-12 minutes if someone in your car doesn't have their ID with them.   

Welcome to Nazi Germany. 

[ness]

The first 4-5 times? How many times has this happened? You must be on their radar. They probably read OAF 😄

[jdmidwest]

I walked up to an agent fishing the Current River below Baptist one time.  Started talking to him, he did not recognize me.  It was after a stocking of the yearly brown trout and he was catching a few.

I said, "be careful with those fish, someone told me there is a game warden lurking around here today."  He looked at me funny and kept talking about the fishing.  He caught another and released it pretty rough.  I warned him again.  He finally said "Whats this agent look like?"  I replied, "kinda like you Steve."  Jig was up and we have visited ever since when I run into him.  And I hope I helped him learn something about handling trout that day also.

[Gavin]

Look at Pot Brothers at Law on YouTube. Those guys have a great script for dealing with LEO’s, and they are entertaining.. STFU, be respectful, and you will probably walk.

 

[fishinwrench]

4 minutes ago, ness said:

The first 4-5 times? How many times has this happened? You must be on their radar. They probably read OAF 😄

I think we're at 11 in Morgan co., 7-8  in Camden.  That's over the last 8-10 years.  They started ramping them up after 2007 I think, when some bill passed.  Alot of times we get word of them beforehand, especially the ones close to home, so we can avoid them.   

The toll road(MM) from Sunrise Beach to Osage beach, the hill approaching the Niangua bridge on 5 hwy., and the road (my road) leading to/from Coconut's are hotspots for them.    

[fishinwrench]

25 minutes ago, Gavin said:

Look at Pot Brothers at Law on YouTube. Those guys have a great script for dealing with LEO’s, and they are entertaining.. STFU, be respectful, and you will probably walk.

 

They get offended when you STFU around here.  They are trying to get you to talk as much as possible so they can see if you slur your words or whatever.   They'll keep jacking with you until you give them a piece of your mind.....then they get all pissy.   Stay quiet and you'll be there all dam night.    

I let them have it, IDGAF, I lost respect for "the badge" a long time ago.  

[jdmidwest]

We were fishing Current River below Doniphan the other day.  Boat comes into the hole and shuts down 100 yards away and starts watching.  I just waved.  My buddy asked why I did it. 

Its Water Patrol.  How do you know?  Who else wears black on a hot sunny day. 

He motored down and talked for a while.  Same one from Wappappello that I have been visiting with all season.  Great guy. 

I was pulling His boat that trip.  TN does not license trailers and it was behind my MO tagged vehicle.  You would think that would draw a check all of the time, but no it does not.

Had a new agent behind us at ramp at Whitten last summer.  Same setup, MO truck, TN boat.  We launched and rigged for fishing.  He launched and blasted up stream.  Came back past us later.  No check for license.  Probably because we spoke to him and was friendly.

[Al Agnew]

Never had a problem with any agent, either here or elsewhere.  Closest I came was in Montana, when an agent left a ticket on the windshield of my buddy's truck at an access, because the trailer didn't have a license plate.  Since I was part owner of the raft and trailer, it was my responsibility as much as his, and we shared the cost of the ticket and getting the license plate.  My local Missouri Conservation Agent for Ste. Genevieve County knows me well, and he's a good one.  I was once wading one of my favorite sections of creek in Ste. Gen County, had left my vehicle at the bridge.  He saw the vehicle but didn't recognize it as mine.  I was a quarter mile up the creek when he came off the high bank, waded across the creek, and came up to me to check me.  Then he saw who it was.  "-------, if I'd known it was you I wouldn't have gotten my shiny shoes all wet."

Had the St. Francois County agent stop Mary and I as we left the Leadwood Access at the end of a float.  Made us park, and asked if we had been fishing.  I said of course.  He wanted to see our licenses.  We showed him.  He looked at us suspiciously..."Your truck license plate says Montana."  "Yep, we live part of the year there and license our vehicles there because it's cheaper."  Showed him my Missouri resident driver's license and everything was good, but I bet he thought he was going to bust us.

I do have some quibbles with the way they do things sometimes.  My biggest beef is that they do too much hiding trying to catch lawbreakers, and not enough open patrolling to DISCOURAGE rule breaking.  Their stock answer when somebody complains that they almost never see an agent is that you don't realize how many times they are up in the brush watching you, and as long as you aren't obviously doing something wrong, you'll never know they are there.  But my answer to that is that if they were out and about and highly visible, there would be fewer laws broken because everybody would EXPECT them to be around.

Another quibble is that either some of them are misinformed about quite a few things, or a lot of people are making up stories about them.  I don't know how many times somebody on Facebook asks a question somewhere in one of the groups, and somebody gives a completely wrong answer that they swear a conservation agent told them.  It happens with critter identifications, and with questions about stream trespass "law" the most.  It seems most agents don't really know the law in that case, and automatically side with the landowners.

 

[Mitch f]

Never resist...it works in every situation...including cops. A few low life people these days need to learn it to keep from getting shot.