What it's like to be retired during Covid

[gotmuddy]

2 minutes ago, JestersHK said:

Correct,  hospital was saying covid on death certificates when clearly it was not.  They tried reporting it but went nowhere... 

 

I feel the same way about this whole mess you do.  My mom has completely fallen for anything and everything she reads, and it has 100% dominated her life for the past 6 months.

[JestersHK]

1 minute ago, gotmuddy said:

I feel the same way about this whole mess you do.  My mom has completely fallen for anything and everything she reads, and it has 100% dominated her life for the past 6 months.

It really is insane.   It's driven my wife and her family apart... 

They have legitimate health concerns and need to be extra careful, but they've over stepped boundaries on trying to force their way of life onto my family.  Between Covid and politics my family will likely be sitting alone during the holidays as I refuse to support or acknowledge their demands and behavior.  Sad really, but it is what it is, there is no changing someone's viewpoint.

They should and can live in a bubble if they need to, but me and mine do not nor will not.  

 

[ColdWaterFshr]

13 minutes ago, JestersHK said:

my family will likely be sitting alone during the holidays as I refuse to support or acknowledge their demands and behavior.  Sad really, but it is what it is, there is no changing someone's viewpoint.

They should and can live in a bubble if they need to, but me and mine do not nor will not.  

 

What are their demands and behavior?  Wearing a mask?

My wife got stared down by trump hat wearing guy at a gas station in Rolla this weekend for what I presume was her crime of wearing a mask.  She was the only one inside the very busy gas station wearing a mask.  She told me about the stare down after we had left, which was probably a good thing or I would have got in his face.

And with regard to your over-reported COVID cause of death theory.  This has been coming up time and time again and its a bunch of hooey.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/01/fact-check-cdcs-data-covid-19-deaths-used-misleading-claims/5681686002/

 

[snagged in outlet 3]

36 minutes ago, JestersHK said:

Correct,  hospital was saying covid on death certificates when clearly it was not.  They tried reporting it but went nowhere... 

 

This is what I thought you meant.  Thx.  

[JestersHK]

9 minutes ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

What are their demands and behavior?  Wearing a mask?

My wife got stared down by trump hat wearing guy at a gas station in Rolla this weekend for what I presume was her crime of wearing a mask.  She was the only one inside the very busy gas station wearing a mask.  She told me about the stare down after we had left, which was probably a good thing or I would have got in his face.

And with regard to your over-reported COVID cause of death theory.  This has been coming up time and time again and its a bunch of hooey.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/01/fact-check-cdcs-data-covid-19-deaths-used-misleading-claims/5681686002/

 

In a nutshell it comes down to their hypocrisies of mask wearing.

I do not deny that masks serve a purpose, but when you say everyone must wear a mask 24/7 even while outdoors to keep your ultra high risk family safe, but choose to send your kids back to school versus keeping them virtual because you can't handle them staying at home for your mental well being you lose my sympathy. 

When you yell at my children for not wearing their mask correctly while your child runs around with their mask on their shoe you lose my sympathy. 

When you spew rehashed political talking points to someone who supports neither side ad nauseam I refuse to listen to your crap or have my children exposed to their drivel. 

Can't choose your family,  however I can decide whether or not I'll be around them. 

Sorry your wife was exposed to a maskhole, but you state you'd get up in his face because of it?  Aren't we all supposed to be social distancing? I'm not following the logic there...

As for death certs reported erroneously as covid you can either believe it or don't. As I stated before I'm not here to change anyone's mind or view point,  just venting my general disgust with this whole situation or for a better part 2020 in general. 

 

[snagged in outlet 3]

I believe there is over reporting 

[Smalliebigs]

2 hours ago, JestersHK said:

I for one am so tired of all of this...

I'll tell you one thing and that's I don't trust any statistic or numbers I hear from either side. Much less from the government.  Both sides have agendas and are using a new virus as a political tool. I'll share some of my observations and take it or leave it, doesn't ultimately matter to me.

My nephews a paramedic, and his wife's a surgical transplant nurse who does organ donor harvesting.  What I can say is that they both have seen and tried reporting an alarming number of deaths due to covid on death certificates that should not be.  Get hit by a car - died of covid, fell off a cliff - died of covid, succumbed to cancer - died of covid.  There take on it is that hospitals get their covid kick back money so there is money to be made here in marking a death as covid...

Again a small sampling size, but you're pulling the wool over your eyes if you do not believe this pandemic is being monetized and used for nefarious purposes.

I know a dozen people who have had Covid so far.  Only one has been hospitalized but has recovered fully thank God.  The other 11 were all sick for 2-4 days and were over it without a trip to the ER and said just a weird cold with mild fever. Ages were from 12 to 64.  Weired that most other family members never got it either.

My youngest was tested without my permission when she was in for a sinus infection... wife had mandatory testing before her surgery... oldest daughter was quarantined from school but never had it... 

I believe fully Covid is capable of killing healthy people.  Have no doubt about that,  but there's a bunch of other crap out there that's just as capable and even more likely to kill you.

If you're at higher risks like some of my own family then yes you should isolate and take extra care.  I for one will go on about my life. 

My last trip we had 19 middle aged adults go to Mexico... 4 airplanes, multiple buses and charters, hardly zero social distancing at a pretty packed resort, and not a single one of us came back sick... but you'd think I was out there killing people and being reckless, and endangering others with my freedom though. Wife took the brunt of it as I thankfully do not social media.

If your masks work so well then what's the worry, and yes I do wear masks when appropriate.  I just trust in my maker and my own personal hygiene to keep me safe and hope I don't fall into that .06% chance of having adverse possibly deadly reaction to a new bug.

Just so much misinformation being spread, and I still am amazed with the entire planet's medical community working on this there is not a way to determine through genetic marking what makes this deadly for some, and a mild cold for others... we still know very little apparently on even transmission rates, or on the flip side someone just doesn't want to tell us the truth.

My only dog in this fight is myself.   I support neither political party and just miss my fishing buddies and times of normalcy.

I truly hope you all stay safe and please dont take anything personally here, just me ranting on my observations of this crazy world we're living in,  and I hope sometime soon I get to get back to hanging out with some of ya.  

Oh and Rick to keep your thread somewhat on path I think the booze will likely kill that Corona before it will get ya .  Hope to see you soon buddy on the White.

 

Agreed with you 100% other than my wife is a doc who specializes in seniors and she has seen some Covid patients so we have been forced into Two different quarantines and are currently in one again with my daughter’s school here in Kirkwood because some brilliant parent who was exhibiting symptoms went and got tested on Monday of last week and was confirmed positive on Thursday evening. She sent her kid to school Monday thru Thursday like a sharp knife and the district is playing it safe and calling her daughter “presumed positive” hahaha what a joke. 
so now back to the BS “virtual learning” and I’m pissed.

 My wife runs a small hospice clinic and one day a gentleman in there had a fever and for some weird reason the tested him for Covid?? I guess for the safety of the clinicians. Anyway it turned out 4 of the 6 people currently in the hospice clinic came up positive for Covid. To make a very lame story short the patients with Covid all survived their bout with Covid before dying of the stuff they were there for Cancer, Congestive Heart failure, diabetes and all were over the aha of 71. Sorry but, this virus is very unusual and the medical professionals don’t know monkey dodo about it still. I wear my mask where it is mandatory and I always wash my hands a lot, I always have. I quit picking my nose when my wife showed me that’s pretty much how you will transmit germs oh about 20 years ago. None of us have come down with the virus and I know we have all been around it in our household. Like Jester said I’m just wanting to see my friends and go fishing. So fing sick of these quarantines but, we will do as we should as being married to a doc I should have known crap like this would happen. I’m not saying it’s a farce but, I’m not as naive as some to think numbers aren’t being manipulated to benefit someone. Be safe out there guys and nail one for me because I will be unleashed on 11/07 and I am gonna blow up some rivers hahaha

[JestersHK]

3 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I believe there is over reporting 

Sadly I do as well, even if my small sample size of a handful of medical professionals that have seen it and experienced it first hand is conservatively stating 15 to 20 cases of erroneous reported deaths, I'm sure there are others.

Shortly before I was let go from my healthcare employer due to Covid there were already internal rumours about how Covid death relief funding would make up the gaps for missed general elective surgeries...

[Smalliebigs]

45 minutes ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

What are their demands and behavior?  Wearing a mask?

My wife got stared down by trump hat wearing guy at a gas station in Rolla this weekend for what I presume was her crime of wearing a mask.  She was the only one inside the very busy gas station wearing a mask.  She told me about the stare down after we had left, which was probably a good thing or I would have got in his face.

And with regard to your over-reported COVID cause of death theory.  This has been coming up time and time again and its a bunch of hooey.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/01/fact-check-cdcs-data-covid-19-deaths-used-misleading-claims/5681686002/

 

So you were gonna go get in the face of some dude who looked at your wife funny in a gas station in Rolla??? Hahaha yeah that’s how you stop the spread of this Coronavirus and get your posterior beat down.... que the “world star” chants from the Hoosier teens as they video  the store patrons gang up and  beat on the city boy hahaha

[tjm]

22 minutes ago, JestersHK said:

Sorry your wife was exposed to a maskhole, but you state you'd get up in his face because of it?  Aren't we all supposed to be social distancing? I'm not following the logic there...

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