Where Do They Come From?

[oneshot]

When we was looking at our place we looked at an aerial with markings of property lines. Was sure it was off.

Found Survey Markers. Had a Shed on my property and I put a lock on it. Neighbor came asking why I put a lock on his Shed? Not your Shed it’s 10 foot on me. Anyway he kept insisting it was his. So I went to my Lawyer.

My Lawyer told me be best to just sell him that Shed plus little bit of property. I told him if he buys this I want him to have it Surveyed and redo the paperwork. He thought he had me by the short ones because he was going by the Aerial and thought he had part of my Garage. Well Survey was done it showed he comes out his Back Door he is on my property and his other neighbor corner was halfway in his Garage. So Survey didn’t help him.

Now he is wanting to sell his place and is saying the Aerial over rides the Survey. They said so at the Courthouse. I asked him who told him this BS at the Courthouse? He hasn’t came up with a name.

oneshot

[Flyfisher for men]

Good luck with this, oneshot. 

 

[Terrierman]

You need a better (meaner) lawyer.

[gotmuddy]

Your neighbor is an idiot, or he is trying to bluster and scare you.  Pretty obvious a survey outweighs an aerial

[BilletHead]

3 hours ago, oneshot said:

When we was looking at our place we looked at an aerial with markings of property lines. Was sure it was off.

Found Survey Markers. Had a Shed on my property and I put a lock on it. Neighbor came asking why I put a lock on his Shed? Not your Shed it’s 10 foot on me. Anyway he kept insisting it was his. So I went to my Lawyer.

My Lawyer told me be best to just sell him that Shed plus little bit of property. I told him if he buys this I want him to have it Surveyed and redo the paperwork. He thought he had me by the short ones because he was going by the Aerial and thought he had part of my Garage. Well Survey was done it showed he comes out his Back Door he is on my property and his other neighbor corner was halfway in his Garage. So Survey didn’t help him.

Now he is wanting to sell his place and is saying the Aerial over rides the Survey. They said so at the Courthouse. I asked him who told him this BS at the Courthouse? He hasn’t came up with a name.

oneshot

                Sounds to me like if you found survey markers stand tough on your find.  Like gotmuddy said neighbor is trying to outbluff you, 

[Quillback]

There's a legal term for your situation "Adverse Possession".  Not sure if it applies in your case, but that is where you need a lawyer.  

In Missouri, as in other states, an individual who openly inhabits an otherwise neglected piece of property for a certain period of time may legally obtain title. This is called "adverse possession" and it's essentially a loophole in the law, closely related to trespassing. Basically, once the statute of limitations has run out, the legitimate property owner loses his or her right to force the "squatter" off of the property. In fact, adverse possession is often referred to as "squatter's rights."

Missouri Adverse Possession Laws - FindLaw

[oneshot]

28 minutes ago, Quillback said:

There's a legal term for your situation "Adverse Possession".  Not sure if it applies in your case, but that is where you need a lawyer.  

In Missouri, as in other states, an individual who openly inhabits an otherwise neglected piece of property for a certain period of time may legally obtain title. This is called "adverse possession" and it's essentially a loophole in the law, closely related to trespassing. Basically, once the statute of limitations has run out, the legitimate property owner loses his or her right to force the "squatter" off of the property. In fact, adverse possession is often referred to as "squatter's rights."

Missouri Adverse Possession Laws - FindLaw

This now is a narrow strip and we use our Garage and Shop.

As matter fact I take care of some of his lawn .

oneshot

[DADAKOTA]

When I bought my house there was a fence already in place near the rear property line.  My surveying buddy came out and found the rear corners inside the neighbors fence.  I drafted a document outlining the fact that the fence was on my property and that I was not conceding any land to the neighbor.  The neighbor signed the document.  May make the new neighbor move the fence to his side of the line.

[fishinwrench]

Aerial surveys that you find online mean absolutely nothing as far as where the actual property lines are at, because the grid is just an overlay plastered on top of a Google Earth image.....and it is not done exactly "to scale".   I've been through that before with 2 different neighbors.  

I promise you that whoever created those images did not just automatically put surveyers out of business. 😂

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

There's a legal term for your situation "Adverse Possession".  Not sure if it applies in your case, but that is where you need a lawyer.  

In Missouri, as in other states, an individual who openly inhabits an otherwise neglected piece of property for a certain period of time may legally obtain title. This is called "adverse possession" and it's essentially a loophole in the law, closely related to trespassing. Basically, once the statute of limitations has run out, the legitimate property owner loses his or her right to force the "squatter" off of the property. In fact, adverse possession is often referred to as "squatter's rights."

Missouri Adverse Possession Laws - FindLaw

 

Huge sections of land have been taken by adverse possession here around Lake O.   Families that owned tiny little homesteads back in the 1930's - 1950's now have GIANT parcels of land.   But here's the kicker......They can't sell it now without having it surveyed and all back taxes settled with the state.  And apparently the cost to do that is overwhelming, because ALOT of sales or transfers of land have been aborted because of it. 

You'd think that the state would just TAKE IT in lieu of back taxes..... but for some reason they don't.   They just allow it continue to accumulate excess taxes owed.  They probably calculate it as going clear back to the end of time.  

I tried to buy an 18 acre piece of land along Gravois cr. but the cost to do it LEGALLY was totally outrageous and way too headachey to even persue.  I did find out though that I can easily avoid any potential trespassing charges that I may be charged with.....so I go there all the time.   The one time I was told by a deputy to "GET OFF THE PROPERTY" I inquired as to whose property I was allegedly trespassing on?   They never responded and no charges were filed.  In order to charge a person with trespassing there needs to be someone holding a legal deed to that property.

So while you may be able to "claim" land by adverse possession.....Good luck legally keeping people off of it.   👍 And I certainly wouldn't advise building anything, other than maybe a fence, on that property.  You can ask someone to leave, and if they do....then fine.   But if you physically remove them, threaten them, or harm them in any way..... You're screwed !