Decompression

[jdmidwest]

9 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

My dad had a bit of pneumonia, when x-rayed they spotted a smaller than dime size spot and brought it to his attention.   After they informed him of it he swore that he could "feel it" (typical hypochondriac 🙄) so after he beat the pneumonia he elected to let them operate to see if they could remove it. 

Once inside him they couldn't find it, so they just sewed him back up.  He worried himself sick about it, literally stopped doing everything and died 8 months later. (From WHAT..... we'll never know). 

Had he just blew it off and went on with his life he'd probably still be here today. 

Doctors aren't always right, and aren't always successful.  The only ones left to sing their praises are the ones that survive their procedures....and lots don't.    Many of those who don't would have been way better off had they just been left alone.  And many who are "fine"after a procedure would have been just as FINE had they never had it.   

Personally, in the past, I have passed on having knee surgery, shoulder surgery, and eye surgery.......and I currently have no knee, shoulder, or eye problems whatsoever.    Our bodies have pretty amazing healing capacities, if you just have the patience to allow it to happen.   Other (all?) people who have had knee/shoulder/eye surgery are never "100% right" again, and it's a constant ailment/disability for the remainder of their life.       

How is that lip doing?

[fishinwrench]

6 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

How is that lip doing?

Still functioning as a lip.   Keeps the bugs out of my mouth, and keeps my food and drinks inside my mouth.   I can whistle, and talk clearly.   And there's no pain associated with it.

Not the prettiest thing to look at..... but I don't see it unless I look in a mirror, and I'll be darn if I'm going to undergo months of traveling back and forth to Columbia just for everyone else's benefit.    If you don't like the way my lip looks, then look away. 😁 

I knew a dude that had a hotrod PSE bow explode in his face during an archery shoot.  He was a Co-Mo lineman with excellent health insurance. The doctors didn't fix his face up very pretty at all......but his wife and kids still loved him, he didn't lose any friends over it, and he lived a long healthy life.     

We can't all be perfectly glamorous forever.   I'm still just thankful it wasn't my eyeball. 👍

[fishinwrench]

14 hours ago, Nick Adams said:

I'd love to know the statistical numerical value of "many." Anecdotal evidence from some guy around the bend just doesn't cut it. Medicine isn't perfect, but I'll take my chances.

Medicine is more perfect and statistically less harmful and more easily recoverable than attempts at surgical procedures, by a huge margin.   

I grew up around doctors and surgeons, my parents were both hobknobs in the medical profession.   Plus I have bunches of customers that are as well.   I'm not even willing to eat their potato salad......So I'll be darned if I'm gonna be gambling my life to them unless the chance that I can recover naturally, or continue to live a halfway decent life is absolutely 100% not possible.   

That's just ME though.   If you wanna get your Covid and Monkeypox vaccine, have your tonsils removed, your breasts smashed, and your colon irrigated every couple years.......then you just go right ahead.   👍 

I'm just chiming in with my personal thoughts on the matter.   We get to choose, and I just choose differently than some others.  Free thinker.....and all that, ya know? ✌️ 

The way I look at it:  I only have to make it another 15 or so years, then I'll be about ready to write a book and give up the ghost.  Who the heck wants to be a drain on their loved ones by hanging around well into their 90's?    😅 

[pjlures]

Who wants to live to their 90's and be a burden?   Ask a  90 year old!  

[Quillback]

I know a 90 year old and his health has declined quite a bit in the last couple of years.  He's not a burden, lives by himself, but does get paid for daily living assistance.  Instead of being a burden, he's actually a source of employment.  

[Dutch]

16 minutes ago, pjlures said:

Who wants to live to their 90's and be a burden?   Ask a  90 year old!  

I knew a 92 year old who just died.  He absolutely wasn’t ready to go.

[Flysmallie]

When you are afraid of doctors you will come up with whatever makes you feel good. 

[MOPanfisher]

I would fonto a witch doctor right now if he would make me feel better.

[fishinwrench]

9 hours ago, MOPanfisher said:

I would fonto a witch doctor right now if he would make me feel better.

Placebo medication and procedures are a REAL thing, and for a real reason.  

Just think about that for awhile...

Let me just give you a dandy scar while you are passed out. Then give you an excellent report when you wake up ("We got it ALL"! 🙂) ......Then just sit back and watch the amazing recovery.  👍

[MOPanfisher]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Placebo medication and procedures are a REAL thing, and for a real reason.  

Just think about that for awhile...

Let me just give you a dandy scar while you are passed out. Then give you an excellent report when you wake up ("We got it ALL"! 🙂) ......Then just sit back and watch the amazing recovery.  👍

I am gonna pass on that, but thanks.  I would sit and drink a cold beverage (Mike's hard lemonade) and we can make a small scar if it makes ya feel better.  Oddly cancer doesn't respond well to placebo treatments and if it doesn't work you die.  I will take my chances with the slower death of chemotherapy for now.