BPT. Shuffield DQed for Cheating on Cayuga.

[Bill Babler]

Guess he failed a poly on catching a fish outside the mouth while sight fishing. 
Several others were called on the carpet and passed the poly. 

Durn, hate to see that. He failed 2 hook manipulation questions. 

On another note you can’t catch the same fish sight fishing twice in a day. 

Avena caught the same fish 4 times in two days, 2 times a day on livescope. No difference to me, Your looking at them as easy with the LS as with your eyes. 
He Cheated, plain and simple  you have a GPS mark on the fish and was looking right at it on multiple catches  that’s BS.  

When that much money is involved it really tests your honesty. 

Hurts my feelings cause I love to watch the BPT. 





 

[willyfish]

Fishing has gone a little sideways if you ask me. They talk about banning A-Rigs in some of these tournaments which I really don't care either way. But if that is going to be a topic of conversation then throw livescope in there too. Map, water temp, depth, and your eyes and lets see who can catch them. 

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1 hour ago, willyfish said:

Map, water temp, depth, and your eyes and let’s see who can catch them. 

I’d sure like to see that on table rock!!!

[Ron Burgundy]

Listening to Slick Johnson has really opened my eyes to BTP…Every league has faults but BTP seems to have many more starting with Boyd . 

[Bill Babler]

Yep, way to much crap going on in that circuit. Think Bobby Lane got fed up with it. 
He wants to win a classic but has been really perturbed in the past while leading a derby and having others come in on him. 

Yes , update score tracker, but don’t tell who is leading. Makes their area a target for all the cheats, Avena being the worst.
There are about 10 guys on that circuit I wouldn’t trust to clean toilets fearing they would steal the toilet brush. 
 

[tjm]

I see all those tournaments the same, just a way to sell gear and boats, if they were really about fishing, there would be no electronics nor high speed boats. I think cheating is to be expected to some extent in any contest for money.  Give the winner a T shirt and the cheating will diminish.

[willyfish]

18 hours ago, Bill Babler said:

Yes , update score tracker, but don’t tell who is leading. Makes their area a target for all the cheats, Avena being the worst.

I completely agree , nobody needs to see the name of the guy in the lead. Some guys are flippers , dock skippers, deep structure, shallow crankers, etc. Denny Brauer is leading I should tie a jig on, gives too much away. Figure it out on your own your supposed to be a pro. 

[Champ188]

On 7/21/2023 at 10:10 AM, Bill Babler said:

Guess he failed a poly on catching a fish outside the mouth while sight fishing. 
Several others were called on the carpet and passed the poly. 

Durn, hate to see that. He failed 2 hook manipulation questions. 

On another note you can’t catch the same fish sight fishing twice in a day. 

Avena caught the same fish 4 times in two days, 2 times a day on livescope. No difference to me, Your looking at them as easy with the LS as with your eyes. 
He Cheated, plain and simple  you have a GPS mark on the fish and was looking right at it on multiple catches  that’s BS.  

When that much money is involved it really tests your honesty. 

Hurts my feelings cause I love to watch the BPT. 





 

Avena is a media darling of that tour, much like Palaniuk is for BASS. Can't have those pristine images meared by a cheating uproar. 

[Champ188]

On 7/21/2023 at 11:02 AM, willyfish said:

Fishing has gone a little sideways if you ask me. They talk about banning A-Rigs in some of these tournaments which I really don't care either way. But if that is going to be a topic of conversation then throw livescope in there too. Map, water temp, depth, and your eyes and lets see who can catch them. 

I'm in for that one. Anytime. 

[Bill Babler]

Avena threw his rope around Wheeler and Connell. He showed his rear something fierce last TR derby. 
He is not them and would push any rule to the limit or beyond.   
MLF right now has a huge amount of negative publicity and I’m thinking they have more than earned it