Dutch Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 I believe that you are correct. The good starting wage around here seems to be about $15/hr. That’s about $30,000 grose many without any benefits. Take out rent, utilities, transportation, child care just to name a few items and there isn’t much left to take care of the rest. Add to that many have intellectual challenges and probably won’t progress much beyond entry level jobs it is easy to see needs that aren’t being met. Terrierman and snagged in outlet 3 2
Mitch f Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: It’s easy to get a job. But is it enough to live “well”? IMO wages have stagnated in this country since around 1990-1995. Yet prices for everything have skyrocketed since then. $50k a year isn’t what it used to be. I reference those years based on wages paid in UAW contracts which used to be quite good jobs. All planned "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Dutch Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 Here is another factor for poor people who might need a short loan. In Springfield alone there are over 300 pay day loan places which can charge up to 76% interest. snagged in outlet 3 1
snagged in outlet 3 Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Here is another factor for poor people who might need a short loan. In Springfield alone there are over 300 pay day loan places which can charge up to 76% interest. That’s crazy! 300!?!? Terrierman 1
Dutch Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 My guess was 30 but there are a couple of Drury University students working on this and that is what they reported. Nick Adams 1
Terrierman Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 Phil I'd like to get this back on track. Please PM me with a suggested amount and a donation will be forthcoming. How about some of the rest of you hard cases buck up too. Poor and hungry is no way to be and If I need to help a bit well, I am fortunate enough to do it and most of you guys are too. So let's make Phil proud what say? Quillback, Daryk Campbell Sr, TRRANGER and 3 others 6
Terrierman Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: That’s crazy! 300!?!? I can't believe that either. TRRANGER and snagged in outlet 3 2
BilletHead Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Terrierman said: Phil I'd like to get this back on track. Please PM me with a suggested amount and a donation will be forthcoming. How about some of the rest of you hard cases buck up too. Poor and hungry is no way to be and If I need to help a bit well, I am fortunate enough to do it and most of you guys are too. So let's make Phil proud what say? Billethead's are doing 50. Some of you guys stepped up for our charity. We will do the same. Get yourself wet Phil! Daryk Campbell Sr, ness, Quillback and 1 other 4 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
Terrierman Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BilletHead said: Billethead's are doing 50. Some of you guys stepped up for our charity. We will do the same. Get yourself wet Phil! You're no hardcase. BilletHead 1
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 17, 2023 Author Root Admin Posted December 17, 2023 https://interland3.donorperfect.net/weblink/WebLink.aspx?name=E358532&id=54 Terrierman and snagged in outlet 3 2
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