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12 hours ago, Bass Enforcer said:

I will chime in to say this.  How does it make any difference if the pro is out getting information to put them in a better position of winning, differ from someone going to school or taking training to make them better at their job. One thing that I think makes this particular topic a little more judgmental toward pro fisherman by some, is because they don't look at fishing being A REAL JOB! But it is for them.  Fishing is how they pay their bills feed their family. For instance Wrench, though I don't know him personally but he seems to graciously offer his expertise when it comes to boat mechanic advise and I trust it. But with the everyday changing of technology he, I'm sure has to update himself through training. No different. Additionally they earn wages by giving plugs to someone's baits/lures. If you don't pay them to do it,do they owe you that plug? Maybe it would be a nice thing to do and I would do it for you Bo but I'm not sure it's fair to "expect" them to do free advertising for your company. I will apologize in advance if I missed you explain why they owe that to you Bo. Just thought I would voice my opinion as a neutral party in that regard.

I disagree!  If Wrench is so danged smart he ought to be able to figure out all of the new stuff on his own!  Training, Schmaining.

Actually, that's an excellent point although I don't like it because it shoots all kinds of holes in what I want to believe and that's way too important to be getting all confused with a bunch of stupid facts.

 

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."  George Carlin

"The only money ever wasted is money never spent."  Me.

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☺ I don't have to figure out the new stuff. Since I'm not a dealer of one specific brand of outboard I don't get to work on them until the warranty expires.....and by then all of the crazy confusing things have been sorted out (for the most part).  I also don't have to wait until the end of the year to get paid. ?

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I personally prefer not to guide professional fishermen.  1st. almost everyone that I have ever taken really acts like they don't like to fish, and that it is pure torture.  And, I have taken some of the biggest.  They don't want you to ever turn the motor off.  Stop and make a cast and move on.  They are on hot coals from the time they start to the time they finish.  Really I would want no part of that life.

 Kind of like Champ and Merc stated it is not about the love of anything but paying the rent and making money.  That is their job period and they can and do use ever tool possible to come to that end, weather it be thru Lures, lake information or any type of leg up they can get.  If we were doing it we would too.  Everyone one of them does it, particular the BASS ELITE and the FLW.

How many pro golfers have you heard of that does not use a swing coach.  How many cadies don't walk courses everyday and put together game plans for their players.  How many Baseball players don't have a hitting instructor, and fielding instructor and a pitching instructor.  How many basketball players don't have people instructing and game planning for them.  How about the NFL or college football with a dozen coaches on the side lines helping and instructing on every faucet of the game.  How many tennis players don't have swing coaches and instructors.

In professional sports and that is what bass fishing is, you cannot do it by yourself, there is no way.  None of them do, they all get and want help weather it is paid or just some nice guy like Bo hoping for a plug for his lure company.

What about sports agents?  Lots of the Bass fishermen have agents just like the other professional sports.  There palate is so full that you may or may not find time to sleep getting sponsors and replacing lost sponsors, along with travel lodging meals and then trying to find fish on lakes you have not been on for months or even at all.

Bass fishermen will stop getting help when professional sports does away with coaches, managers and trainers.  That will be never.

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I applaud anyone who can catch fish on TRL regardless of the amount of information they received. I absorb as much information from the reports everyone posts here on this forum. I try to use that information to my advantage while deciding where to fish and what to use. In the end, more experience and a little luck will help me catch more fish as time goes by. I've learned that when all else fails I will pick up a Ned and catch a few. I owe that knowledge to this forum.  For that I am extremely grateful. 

Mike

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Mike regardless of what we tell or anyone tells or shows them, and you hit this right on the head, they have to go catch them.  A caddie can tell the player the exact yardage and the exact lay of the green, but that pro still has to swing that club.

With TR also what is here is gone tomorrow.  This lake is one of the hardest to pattern in the entire country just do to fish movement.  That is where we as guides have a huge advantage over really the normal guy that can quite frankly fish as well as we can.  We have a huge advantage in that we are constantly networking with other guides and other guys fishing on the lake, to help with the fish movement.

I can never even remember another guide asking me what I was catching fish on.  It is always the same question.  How deep are they today.

 

Posted

Bill, you are so right. I am amazed at the people who ask "what are they biting on?" That question is of little use. How deep the fish are is some great information. It speaks volumes. 

Mike

Posted
28 minutes ago, Bill Babler said:

You can catch a bass on everything but you for sure can't catch them if they aren't where your fishing. 

One of the most accurate "Bablerisms" ever posted!!!!

Mike

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