COE Private Boat Dock regulation change

[bobby b.]

My neighbor saw a piece on the news last night that the Corp is going to require private boat docks to remove AC power from their docks including the power poles etc. and replace with solar and batteries.

Questions -

1) What do you know about this?

2) Does anyone on this forum have solar on the dock now and if so how well does it work and how big of a battery system would be needed for a 20 slip dock?

Thanks

Bobby

[m&m]

I saw in the Branson paper that the COE has their dock plan out for review. They are going to hold open discussions to explain their proposal. So check their web site often to see the dates. 

Mike

[Matt Henry]

From the revision plan:

Only alternative power sources (e.g. solar) will be allowed. Existing licenses for overhead and underground electric service to private floating facilities will not be renewed after December 31, 2027. 

[Matt Henry]

ELECTRIC LINES  (2017 Final Plan)

Existing electrical services supplying floating structures or occupying Corps property must meet the standards set by the current National Electrical Code. Licenses are not required for solar or other alternative electric systems that are contained entirely upon a permitted boat dock. Generally, outgrants will not be issued for new electric service to private floating facilities. Electric service for new floating facilities and those existing facilities without service must be supplied from a renewable energy alternative power source (e.g. solar or wind). This service must be installed and maintained to the standards established by the current National Electrical Code. Existing licensed electric lines providing service to private floating facilities will not be renewed after December 31, 2027. Prior to the issuance of a Shoreline Use Permit after December 31, 2027, overhead and underground electrical service must be removed and the area restored. Overhead electric requires the removal of all poles at ground level, all wire, and all associated equipment from public land. Underground electric requires disconnecting the wire from the source and removing all exposed conduit, wire, and associated equipment. Continued electric service must be provided by alternative power source. All electric service must be maintained in safe working condition and meet Corps standards (including license/easement and SMP conditions), meet all local and state codes, and meet all requirements of the National Electrical Code. 

[motoman]

Maybe I've had a long day and am misreading this part.........."Existing licensed electric lines providing service to private floating facilities will not be renewed after December 31, 2027".........would this mean the large commercial docks (and smaller resorts) that are not affiliated with state parks would have to remove shore power?

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And to the OP's original question. I would think a pretty serious array of solar panels would be needed, and a significant sized battery pack also for a 20 slip dock. But someone smarter than I will be along shortly. I just have limited info from what I've been researching about Tesla related stuff the past 6 months. (Model S, solar shingles, powerwall, etc)

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As for those huge commercial docks with the offshore style cruisers; I can't help but think there will be serious outcry from those folks who like to leave those barges plugged into some serious voltage and keep things running. Cause solar panels and battery packs for those docks would have to be massive.

[bobby b.]

Thanks all

I wonder which politician or government employee owns a solar power company in the area? 

[Deadstream]

Carnahan  and McCaskill.     Crooks!     Shameless.

[Ellros]

Hmm...  cloudy day...  raining... Well darn, no power for the boat lift....

[Old plug]

 

From what I have seen of thos atuff going on down there with the COE I am glad InwLivecon LOZ. My dock is wired to NEC specifcations. Bit it looks to me like your qrea is playing games. I also have a blue navigational  light on my dock. Never seen mention of that on here dor Table Rock while at thexsame time I see excessive requirements for things down there.

I do nt think about 1/2 the dock owners on LOZ and installers realy realize what the requirments are, Inspections should be made simple you just need to test the waters around the dock for leakage. I doo it a few times a year. Just seen a alleged installer miswire two docks in my immediate area .They replaced all the outlet on the dock with standard routlets.  Told my beighbor it would ever pass a inepection. Right away he wanted to bet me. Told me therere was a GFI in the box ( there is suppose to be) on the bank ant that would take care of anything. WRONG. The NEC insist on GFCI on dock and within 6 ft of any water outlet in your home.

[garyw]

well, maybe if they can't get the power for those ocean liners, they won't come