CWD and the MDC

[fishinwrench]

Deal !  

If you miss quota 3 times then you get moved to the kitchen.  

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I hope you like peas??

[fishinwrench]

Goose Fajita Friday !   

[oneshot]

On ‎1‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 9:04 AM, ollie said:

I have been roughly following this for awhile now and have wondered what the outcome will be.  I personally can't stand canned hunts so you know my mind is made up already.

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/deer-hunting-businesses-conservation-department-do-battle-in-missouri-supreme-court/919700334

Ok what have you against so called Canned Hunts? Do you like fishing for Bass out of a Pond?

Have been on Canned Hunts with no Guarantee and went home empty handed and have enjoyed catching Bass out of ponds.

The way I see it a few Deer have CWD and they will die and yes they will spread it and they will die. If the MDC comes in and kills all the Deer they can. The Deer will still be dead whether they have CWD or not and they will be no use to anyone. But leave them be let the Hunters kill them they will make use of them. The way I understand it CWD doesn't effect humans and if they are deboned it is a none issue.

There is several diseases out there in hunted wildlife some far worse than CWD so what is the issue?  

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[Basfis]

Friend of mine raises deer he is ultra concerned with disease. Beyond the obvious financial motivation (read usda order herd destruction) there is the genuine interest animal husbandry. 

If you’ve spent years cultivating a trait, any disease is catastrophic to the investment. I, nor anyone, can prove the source of CWD. 

Anyone recall the manditory inceneration of chickens and turkeys from farms in Iowa? For those farms, insurance was an option. Not available for a deer farm. 

We lost every deer worth mentioning on a hunting property in bates county to blue tongue. Ebb an flow of nature. 

[grizwilson]

I am not a Biologist but was familiar with what we called hoof and mouth disease back in the 70s in cattle.  This is the take from a Biologist, Larry Dablemont:

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What is being said right now about the deer disease known as chronic wasting is absolutely ridiculous, because some game and fish departments are afraid they will lose so much money in deer tag revenue if they word things wrong.  Many who eat deer meat are absolutely convinced that humans cannot get chronic wasting disease.

 

       Technically, you cannot, because what is known as CWD in deer is called by a different name when it kills a human being.  But I promise you, despite what you have heard, hunters and others have died because they ingested the prions which cause the same disease, by different names, in deer, elk, sheep, goats and cattle.  In all these creatures, it is given a different name and in humans it is called Kruetzfeldt-Jakobs disease. How many have died from it is just a guess, because doctors I have talked with say that it is something not often tested for and many times, misdiagnosed as something else.

 

       In my upcoming spring magazine I have tried to compile what medical people and scientists have been learning about this disease, and you can read all about it, in several pages of fact and theory coming from the study of this disease, from the best-qualified medical people, which is nothing like what the MDC is telling us.

 

       Believe me, if you have eaten untested deer meat like that given out in any state’s ‘share the harvest’ program, you are taking a risk.  How much of a risk no one can say. I urge you to read in the spring issue of The Lightnin’ Ridge Outdoor magazine, some other views of those who have looked at this disease without bias.

 

       I recently learned that in the northern tier of Arkansas counties bordering Missouri, examination of road-killed deer in 2017 showed more than 100 CWD infected deer.  Isn’t it strange that the Missouri Conservation Department just finds a handful of deer in neighboring counties with that disease?  Apparently the awful disease just stops at the Arkansas-Missouri line.

 

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[ollie]

What do I have against canned hunts you say?  Just not as sporting in my opinion.  I agree there are times that people go home empty handed, but to me it is about the same as fishing for bass off the beds.  Not as fun and far more easier to catch.  That and why would I want to pay someone to hunt when I have plenty of land to hunt on for free.  I mean come on, 40,000 for a hunt?  If I shell out that kind of cash and go home empty handed you bet I'm going to be pissed!  lol

[Quillback]

Don't know much about those Prion things myself, but when there was that "Mad Cow" disease outbreak a few years ago, it was caused by Prions, supposedly people got it from eating infected cattle.  There seems to be a lot of unknowns about prions, but if you get them, you are hosed.

[Haris122]

I don't think mdc said the disease isn't transmissible to human beings, in fact, over time, they've been saying more and more that there's a good chance it is, cause it's transmissible to monkeys. If essentially the same disease jumped from cows to humans, good chance it can jump from deer to humans. I think that's mainly why the mdc is so serious about the disease. It's not like ehd or something else, that takes it's course, and kills off what it kills off, then essentially disappears until the next outbreak. It just keeps increasing in prevalence (there's very little to no resistance to it), even if it's a slower death for the deer, it's very difficult to eliminate from the environment, and unlike most animal diseases, it has the potential to directly affect a chunk of the human population too.

[fishinwrench]

If it's truly a threat then it sounds like the only thing that can be done about it is to kill off a huge percentage of the deer, which I'm totally in favor of.   What are they waiting for?

Apparently none of this is as important to them as selling those tags.