NEW CARP REGULATIONS

[oneshot]

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 4:59 PM, aarchdale@coresleep.com said:

All my years of fishing i have never seen anyone with a stringer full of carp. It think the population is gonna be fine

Well

oneshot

I have enjoyed them all my life. Use to pay to fish for them.

 

[MoCarp]

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

           MoCarp,  You or anyone else on here are not bullied.

Quote

***** 

Hey MoCarp, thought I'd PM rather than get crucified on your thread .  I am a fly fisherman deeply interested in finding place near me to fly fish for carp.

^ that is in my inbox, so what do you call it? (name redacted to protect the innocent)

 

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

There is no conservation issue with carp. They are plentiful, they are everywhere and they are  invasive.

that sir is debatable, LMB are everywhere and considerd invasive by the people who track such things, I have linked that info till I am blue in the face,

 places that hold trophy common carp are not so and if your statement was fact CT would not have passed the new regulations

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

You post above about carp fishing tourneys being a social gathering. What do you call a bow fishing tourney? The same thing a social event where guys compete. No difference at all. Yes the fish die. There are plenty of carp for everyone.

holding a bass killing tourney is legal, but not to spite people, its just not cool, perhaps a cabin cruiser event tossing huge wakes at a kayak bass event? same kind of deal if the persons intent wast to jack up the kayakers, or am I wrong?

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

What do you call a bow fishing tourney? The same thing a social event where guys compete. No difference at all. Yes the fish die. There are plenty of carp for everyone.

plenty of carp, just not big carp, to those who think a 10# fish is a monster, we euro carpers have bigger goals, it takes a 40" fish to get even close to 30# imagine how big a 50# is? ether way its those events that have systematically trashed former big carp waters that brought about protections in CT. ironically it seems those events may harm bass populations by lowering highly nutritious YOY baby carp (and buffalo) from bass at important time is there growth cycle ( skinny bass big heads) big harvest of any fish over time hammer it down, when I was a kid all those years ago, you did not even have to have a license to fish in the Gulf, nor where there any limits, time change.

 

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

We are at an impasse right now. I tell you what buddy. If you would post your stuff on the carp threads I bet most folks would leave you alone. 

we can test that theory but new regulations to conserve a fish stock is by its very nature a conservation issue

 

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

They are not front page news.

The Austin American-Statesman has had many a story leading about carp, the year Al won the $250,000 and set the state record at that time made the papers all over the USA

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

If someone caught a Missouri Record then post on the main page.

its been broken 3 times  I know of within a reasonable  drive of you, like many carp records, do not get turned in in fear of the Bfing pressure, if you or anyone thinks that is BS I invite you to ask that very question on the Carp org FB and let them tell you,

this thread started as what I had promised months ago when I was told that it will be a "cold day in hell" when carp get protections,

so here we are and ol billzebob is wearing a parka

http://www.espn.com/outdoors/fishing/columns/story?columnist=sutton_keith&page=g_col_Sutton_records

[MoCarp]

6 minutes ago, oneshot said:

Well

oneshot

I have enjoyed them all my life. Use to pay to fish for them.

 

nothing wrong with that, eating carp that size makes the big fish bigger and his catch would be right in line with the 5 fish only one over 26" new regulations 

[oneshot]

Actually I rather catch Suckers and believe Gigging and Grabbing should be outlawed. I also like Buffalo as far as eating.

Suckers and Buffalo are both Native and I feel more effort should be done to protect them over Carp.

oneshot

 

[BilletHead]

             It took me way to long to figure this out. I think you need to move to Connecticut. Again the invasive species of common carp are not a conservation issue. I really wish the MDC would give you a pond or something and make you a carp place of your own. That would be great and give Fishingwrench another thing to bash them about . He likes the Spoonbill fishery a lot,

  BilletHead

[oneshot]

11 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

             It took me way to long to figure this out. I think you need to move to Connecticut. Again the invasive species of common carp are not a conservation issue. I really wish the MDC would give you a pond or something and make you a carp place of your own. That would be great and give Fishingwrench another thing to bash them about . He likes the Spoonbill fishery a lot,

  BilletHead

Spoonbill are fun but not that good eating.

oneshot

 

[MOPanfisher]

The worst thing about spoonbill is after you are done catching them they are still spoonbill.  They don't turn into fish sticks or even a McDonald hamburger.  They are edible but I don't care for them so I don't fish for them.  Although I did smoke some once and it was pretty tasty.

[fishinwrench]

20 minutes ago, oneshot said:

Spoonbill are fun but not that good eating.

oneshot

 

I'm glad I didn't have to ride back home in the same truck with you after hugging those slimey stinkin' basturds.

[Lvn2Fish]

It’s funny that you say you’re “bullied” but half of your posts have people gigging bass in them. 

[MoCarp]

7 minutes ago, Lvn2Fish said:

It’s funny that you say you’re “bullied” but half of your posts have people gigging bass in them. 

attempted* bullied, and I do think gigging hurts trophy smallmouth fishing in some areas & I am not the only one here on OAF that thinks so

but the vids on this thread are Bfed bass (legally I might add)

yet the smallmouth advocates have not been successful in limiting gigging anywhere that I know of,

  I gladly fight the good fight winning hearts and minds one post at a time

here is the state record NE smallmouth taken by bow legally,... personally I'd like to see some places with a no-smallmouth over 18" harvest rule, is this bullying?  only if I am hammering people about bass fishing on whopper popper threads, which I do not

lets be clear, I am all for managing fisheries for more and bigger fish, be it bass, crappie, walleyes etc, if you look through my posts, I have discussed genetics, management ideas for many species not just carp,

I also have a friend in state fisheries that is researching managing common carp as a trophy, I am sure in time all his hard work will be published, I am glad to be able to help in this since I have more time on my hand than most.

even as things move forward fish stabbers will still be able to stab fish, perhaps not everywhere or as many as in the past, I am sure people yatched and moaned when they made people buy a fishing license and imposed the 1st limits,  but here we are today