TableRockBoater Posted April 13, 2021 Author Posted April 13, 2021 Forget about the buoys; a boat operator is responsible for their wake anywhere/everywhere. It's a question of courtesy and respect. Not that it matters to some, but it is also against the law in Missouri. https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/Publications/Brochures/documents/SHP-272.pdf Remember to be courteous. If you were in a small boat attempting to navigate your boat wake, or you owned a dock that has to survive your boat wake, would you be operating in the same manner? Treat other boaters and property owners as you would want to be treated. Causing harm to another person or their property with an excessive boat wake may subject you to enforcement action or civil liability Just like I do not label every boater coming into our cove a jerk, because most of them are not, you should not label every dock owner trying to protect what is theirs, and keep the lake civil, a crabby old man. The fact that some posts here indicate there may be two sides to this, that being disrespectful and breaking the law is something you can blame on the person pointing out the issue, just shows that it is an issue.
Lvn2Fish Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TableRockBoater said: Forget about the buoys; a boat operator is responsible for their wake anywhere/everywhere. It's a question of courtesy and respect. Not that it matters to some, but it is also against the law in Missouri. https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/Publications/Brochures/documents/SHP-272.pdf Remember to be courteous. If you were in a small boat attempting to navigate your boat wake, or you owned a dock that has to survive your boat wake, would you be operating in the same manner? Treat other boaters and property owners as you would want to be treated. Causing harm to another person or their property with an excessive boat wake may subject you to enforcement action or civil liability Just like I do not label every boater coming into our cove a jerk, because most of them are not, you should not label every dock owner trying to protect what is theirs, and keep the lake civil, a crabby old man. The fact that some posts here indicate there may be two sides to this, that being disrespectful and breaking the law is something you can blame on the person pointing out the issue, just shows that it is an issue. I agree that a boat operator is always responsible for there wake. But you’re fighting a losing battle if you think someone is going to be citied for it . How is someone supposed to prove that. There is totally two sides to this story , the biggest being no one is breaking the law lol . Jesus. I’m sure it sucks when a wave comes by and sloshes the water around . I haven’t seen a single instance where you’ve come in here for your yearly update and something actually has been damaged . I’m actually very very respectful when boating . And if I came in on plane and shut down in the middle of a cove outside of the no wake buoys and you came telling me to show respect . Well let’s just say you’re not getting an ounce man . From what I gather this is an all time Karen post . nomolites and aarchdale@coresleep.com 2
Bushbeater Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 I do have a permit for my buoy, and the water patrol occasionally checks it. In fact they've been very helpful. Once when the buoy was washed away in high water they returned it about 2 years later. A second time I lost it I found one in a logjam and brought it home and installed it. An officer cane by, checked the numbers, told me it was previously unregistered and put my permit number on it. I wish they would spend that much time enforcing the rules of the road. BilletHead 1
TableRockBoater Posted April 13, 2021 Author Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said: I agree that a boat operator is always responsible for there wake. But you’re fighting a losing battle if you think someone is going to be citied for it . How is someone supposed to prove that. There is totally two sides to this story , the biggest being no one is breaking the law lol . Jesus. I’m sure it sucks when a wave comes by and sloshes the water around . I haven’t seen a single instance where you’ve come in here for your yearly update and something actually has been damaged . I’m actually very very respectful when boating . And if I came in on plane and shut down in the middle of a cove outside of the no wake buoys and you came telling me to show respect . Well let’s just say you’re not getting an ounce man . From what I gather this is an all time Karen post . The fact that some posts here indicate there may be two sides to this, that being disrespectful and breaking the law is something you can blame on the person pointing out the issue, just shows that it is an issue. 😷
fishinwrench Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 I'd like to tell some of the people that own property on this lake, that they have enough money to have their OWN lake, and own the only dock on it. But they chose to put one HERE, knowing full well what this place was like. So shut up, go inside, and play cribbage or check the stock options of the day. fshndoug 1
TableRockBoater Posted April 13, 2021 Author Posted April 13, 2021 Yes, there are two sides to this: Courteous and respectful, and the other side. The last few years, discourteous and disrespectful has found a place; everyone knows why. That doesn't make it right.
TableRockBoater Posted April 13, 2021 Author Posted April 13, 2021 One person being a jerk is not a good reason for another guy being a jerk, but it does encourage it. Again, this has nothing to do with buoys.
Devan S. Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 At the end of the day, the law is written such that it is absolutely worthless and therefore enforcement is impossible. Someone please qualitatively define idle speed, no wake? Being responsible for your wake is even more ambiguous. You put a metal structure directly on the water and subject it to waves(generated from boats and/or wind) day in and day out. Suddenly your responsibility for your wake is useless to damage on a dock short of me directly running into a dock. It would be impossible to prove what is fatigue wear vs. damage due to wake. Especially when were talking bass boats and wakes vs. what the wake boats in the summer churn up.
Members BassPastor Posted April 13, 2021 Members Posted April 13, 2021 15 hours ago, fishinwrench said: Don't you worry, tournament participation is going to start falling off drastically within the next year or two. Guarantee it. Can you expand on this? You think that those who have jumped on the COVID lake craze will get busy with other things again?
fishinwrench Posted April 13, 2021 Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, BassPastor said: Can you expand on this? You think that those who have jumped on the COVID lake craze will get busy with other things again? No, I think many guys will get tired/bored with playing the Livescope video game after awhile, and will find other ways to spend their time/money. And if you think that they will just quit using forward facing sonar and go back to fishing "blind" you're fooling yourself. A few hours with no bites and they'll be right back at it......until they finally decide they are bored with it. At that point it's time to quit making boat payments and put that money towards something that excites them. Badminton maybe. 😅 fshndoug 1
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