jdmidwest Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 The Civil War had its issues. Different times back then. Slavery exists now, only its called food stamps, welfare, and all of the perks that goes with it. And the people that make the payments get tired of seeing it go to waste. snagged in outlet 3 and tho1mas 2 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
fishinwrench Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, jdmidwest said: Slavery exists now, only its called marriage. FTFY ! Ya know, the reason you are supposed to have a marriage license is because Crackers couldn't keep their peckers out of their slaves.
oneshot Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I was just asking a question. Most don’t realize Missouri Confederates didn’t fly the Stars and Bars, their flags were much different. Yes 85 of my ancestors fought for the Confederacy and owned Slaves. But most took our Family Name and stayed with the family because they knew no other life. Over the Internet things don’t come out right. Many don’t know I have two Bi Racial Step Children that I love and almost lost my life because of my love. I lived with a Black Woman, cared about her we didn’t see things the same considering she was very much city. We split very much friends. I was married to a Native American for 11 years. Still check on her, like me has some health issues. Just many other instances but mentioned a couple. oneshot
top_dollar Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 What could the confederate flag possibly represent other than slavery? It is a giant F U to the black community, no more no less. Just like confederate monuments erected after 1900. It represents southern whites reasserting their dominance over blacks. Terrierman and Flysmallie 2
Johnsfolly Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 14 hours ago, jdmidwest said: Slavery exists now, only its called food stamps, welfare, and all of the perks that goes with it. And the people that make the payments get tired of seeing it go to waste. It's political slavery; all for votes and power. BilletHead 1
tjm Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 The flag in question actually isn't "the Confederate Flag", oneshot points that out in the OP What we have here is conditioning to believe the flag pictured has any meaning at all. To me it only means someone doesn't know what it was or is. It's a "sign" as in "here's your sign".
tjm Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 If one reads the papers and historical posturing by politicians prior to 1858 from an objective view, slavery was not the reason for the war it was just a justification of it, that war was about state and regional power on a national level and certain individuals played states' rights against the slavery issue to bring about what they thought would be a new agrarian country. The whole slave issue is with England for importing Africans to start with and for allowing an African to become the first slave owner in the Colonies, any ill will by descendants of slaves or demands for reparation need to be aimed at England and the African nations that supplied the first generation of slaves. By the time of the secession adoption of English laws and established precedents of property rights was old stuff, the politics of the time were based quite a bit on personalities and familial kinships rather than any philosophical creeds. There is no logical way to use any of that in making present day policies or judgements anymore than we can catch the fish we ate last week again today. Our ancestors don't have anything to do with how we chose to live and to assign blame to a living person for what we imagine his ancestor did is stupidity. fishinwrench 1
oneshot Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, top_dollar said: What could the confederate flag possibly represent other than slavery? It is a giant F U to the black community, no more no less. Just like confederate monuments erected after 1900. It represents southern whites reasserting their dominance over blacks. Well got a Black Friend that wears and flies the Stars and Bars . What would she be? oneshot
top_dollar Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, oneshot said: Well got a Black Friend that wears and flies the Stars and Bars . What would she be? oneshot no you don't. 🤣
oneshot Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, top_dollar said: no you don't. 🤣 Yes I do she works at River Front. She is a Sweetheart. oneshot
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