Fast Food Woes

[nomolites]

2 hours ago, Flysmallie said:

But they don't have to raise the price at all. Just need to quit funding huge bonuses to upper management, quit catering to a board of directors and Wall Street. It can be done if we didn't always have to have record profits. I know this because I'm part of that management that gets the big bonus for record profits. I see the the stock grow. I know what my stores are paying in management fees. And I get a salary that is probably more than it should be. Plus a lot of other perks that pushes the cost of employing me way over what the folks that are actually making the sales earn. It's a screwed up system. Luckily I only have 2.5 years left of this and then I can go do something different. 

They idea of paying all equally and they will contribute equally is flawed and naive.  I certainly agree many bonuses are excessive, but I also regularly observe observe employees who contribute nothing and still get paid(mostly union).  Compensation should be performance and commitment based, but in litigious society that’s not going to happen.  We will continue to pay for it and hard workers will continue to carry the dregs and slugs until something changes.  Giving them more money ain’t gonna fix it.

[Mitch f]

26 minutes ago, Nick Adams said:

So if everyone somehow took "personal responsibility", there would be no problems with income inequity? How do you then explain the cashier who has worked for 20 years a the regional grocery store chain whose wages have not kept pace with rising costs for housing, utilities, healthcare, food, and other standard cost of living indices?

There have been plenty  of multi varied analysis performed on this subject. There are many reasons why there are wage disparities…age, agreeableness, health, gender, interests, etc. People, if let alone to their own devices usually find a place of comfort, and it’s possible that their comfortable place may not pay as much as as someone else. You can’t blame someone else for this!! 

[Nick Adams]

5 minutes ago, Mitch f said:

blame someone else for this

Of course some positions provide more value, create more revenue, etc. But the problem is systemic and always has been, which is why minimum wage was created in the first place. Left unregulated, businesses take advantage of their workers. Business collude and pay "market wage"--the line Mercy always gave for paying nurses less in Springfield than in StL for the exact same position--when it's they who set the market.

I can find economists who will argue that the rising tide of wage increases floats all boats. You'll counter with economists who say the opposite. 

You started this conversation by stating the false equivalency that poor service has been caused by the welfare state. Your Popeyes in the StL metro closed at 6. My Popeye's in the Springfield metro requires exact change or card every time I go. Maybe this isn't a government issue but a Popeye's issue?

[Mitch f]

1 minute ago, Nick Adams said:

You started this conversation by stating the false equivalency that poor service has been caused by the welfare state. Your Popeyes in the StL metro closed at 6. My Popeye's in the Springfield metro requires exact change or card every time I go. Maybe this isn't a government issue but a Popeye's issue?

Well maybe you’re right about Popeye’s 

I guess they just suck everywhere! 😂

my bad

[Al Agnew]

14 hours ago, Mitch f said:

Classic liberal 

Got anything to refute what I said, or are we just name-calling now?  Please explain how we bring back manufacturing jobs without lowering wages and benefits and scrapping regulations so that we can compete with the Chinas and Indias of the world.  Please explain how it's possible to employ every American who wants to work and make a living above the poverty line when we've become a service economy.  Please explain how we provide good and useful education for youth in poverty in the inner cities and poor rural areas, so that they can be employed at good jobs above the poverty line.

"Liberals" don't have any answer for this.  Neither do conservatives.  We all need to face the facts.  Regardless of Trump's pie in the sky promises in 2016, the world has moved on, and things have changed.  We need to start figuring out how to live with the world as it is, not try to bring it back to some former utopia that never existed.  Does that mean raising minimum wage?  I don't know.  I doubt it.  Raising the minimum wage to a level that allows such workers to live above the poverty line is almost sure to raise the price of the goods and services they produce, and then they are STILL below the new poverty line.  And we've gone way too far down the road already of the upper management getting ever richer while the poor stay poor and the middle class disappears; the people with money have the power, and the people in power make the rules.

[MoCarp]

44 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

.  We all need to face the facts.  Regardless of Trump's pie in the sky promises in 2016, the world has moved on, and things have changed.  We need to start figuring out how to live with the world as it is, not try to bring it back to some former utopia that never existed.  

That is the issue, liberals want to go through a history revisionism….teach the 1619 project and all the ills of our nations founding…. Tear down the USA So our foundations can be replaced….mid term elections will be telling….bulk of Americans have had enough…..

[Deadstream]

"does their job and proves they deserve a bigger role"  

That is the point.  You EARN it. You have to crawl before you walk.

[Mitch f]

9 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

Got anything to refute what I said, or are we just name-calling now?  Please explain how we bring back manufacturing jobs without lowering wages and benefits and scrapping regulations so that we can compete with the Chinas and Indias of the world.  Please explain how it's possible to employ every American who wants to work and make a living above the poverty line when we've become a service economy.  Please explain how we provide good and useful education for youth in poverty in the inner cities and poor rural areas, so that they can be employed at good jobs above the poverty line.

"Liberals" don't have any answer for this.  Neither do conservatives.  We all need to face the facts.  Regardless of Trump's pie in the sky promises in 2016, the world has moved on, and things have changed.  We need to start figuring out how to live with the world as it is, not try to bring it back to some former utopia that never existed.  Does that mean raising minimum wage?  I don't know.  I doubt it.  Raising the minimum wage to a level that allows such workers to live above the poverty line is almost sure to raise the price of the goods and services they produce, and then they are STILL below the new poverty line.  And we've gone way too far down the road already of the upper management getting ever richer while the poor stay poor and the middle class disappears; the people with money have the power, and the people in power make the rules.

There are plenty jobs to go around. Everyone I know is hiring. But it seems there are many making a living off of government assistance. Why would they want to work if they make more sitting at home? Employers took a risk and started their business, Covid darn near ruined many businesses. Without these employees no one would have a job anyway. 
Im fishing this weekend and am not going to respond anymore. 

[top_dollar]

1 hour ago, Mitch f said:

Im fishing this weekend and am not going to respond anymore. 

🤣 Yeah right.  Im pretty sure you cant help yourself because you clearly started this thread in order to air your political grievances. 

[Gavin]

Taking his toys and going home😀!