2024 white bass run

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Don’t worry.  Sugarbritches owns him.  😆

I hope that when I'm gone she gets on here and rips y'all to pieces. 

You think I'm bad ! .... 😳  You have NO IDEA !  

 

 

[BilletHead]

3 hours ago, Terrierman said:

For the life of me I cannot understand why a nuisance invasive species like black buzzards have the MDC protecting them.  To the point it's a thing for Farm Bureau to help their members get permits to control them.  And if I understand correctly, depradation permits are only given to cattle operations.  Might as well start protecting Mimosa and Bradford Pear.  

vulture-flier.pdf (mofb.org)

I understand the fact that Missouri's wildlife code is prescriptive - i.e. if the animal and method aren't listed in the code, it's not legal - but for real - these things are a problem.  Ask a native turkey buzzard if you can still find one.  The codes need to open season on them for everyone, everywhere by any method,.  Come on MDC and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, get into the real world what say?

             Plenty of native around here. They raise young in the old barn across the road. They are migrating back north now. Been seeing them for three weeks now. the black ones have been showing up now here for two years in this area. 

[MOPanfisher]

Last few years the Black vultures have been thick.  Don't know why they hate/live rubber.  Wipers, weather stripping g, seals etc. But they do.  Dead on rs hanging in trees has some limited effect, scaring them away if done every single day has some effect, but the best is to keep anything g they might want to eat cleaned up, almost i.possible around ramps as somebody is always cleaning fish and either tossing the carcasses on the bank or wherever they can see them.  Will be worse in a few more days when spoonbill carcasses start showing up on with the crappie and white bass.

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

😳  You have NO IDEA !  

Yes we do.   It gives us pleasure knowing she’s with you.  😂

[tjm]

6 hours ago, Terrierman said:

For the life of me I cannot understand why a nuisance invasive species

Pretty simple really the birds are protected not by MDC  but by a federal law that MDC must comply with, look up the  Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918.  Maybe the USA signed a series of treaties with other countries that spell out how birds are to be treated, then Congress passed a law governing that nationwide. 

 Actually the black vultures are not invasive, they were not introduced; they are simply expanding their natural range as climate change  allows then too. Invasive species, those that were introduced,   like starlings and English sparrows are not protected.

I'm ready to take all raptors off of  the protected list, but  that requires an Act the US Congress. and probably renegotiating some foreign treaties.

[fishinwrench]

NOW it's political!    And it wasn't ME that did it !.  

[Dutch]

9 hours ago, tjm said:

Pretty simple really the birds are protected not by MDC  but by a federal law that MDC must comply with, look up the  Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918.  Maybe the USA signed a series of treaties with other countries that spell out how birds are to be treated, then Congress passed a law governing that nationwide. 

 Actually the black vultures are not invasive, they were not introduced; they are simply expanding their natural range as climate change  allows then too. Invasive species, those that were introduced,   like starlings and English sparrows are not protected.

I'm ready to take all raptors off of  the protected list, but  that requires an Act the US Congress. and probably renegotiating some foreign treaties.

Put the Canadian goose in there and I’m with you.

[grizwilson]

[jdmidwest]

If you hit them just right, they will go away.

[ollie]

I see this thread has gone somewhat off the rails so I will bring it back in. I got the chance to go down there yesterday after work, so I went for it. Didn't know what I would get into, but I didn't get into them at all! I caught two measly whites that were about 8" long and that was all. Got down there by 4, got my waders on and headed to the gravel bar. Not many cars in the parking lot at all and I passed several boats on the way down there that probably had taken out at the bridge. Not really a good sign to begin with. Got down to the gravel bar and saw like 2 other people and none of them were tearing it up either. Again, not that great of a sign. Started wading out on the gravel bar and then it dawned on me that the water was very low since I was able to walk a long way out into the stream. Caught those two on a Roostertail,  but tried several different things before giving up and heading back home.   As I was leaving, I noticed more cars pulling into the lot and getting ready. Maybe they did better than me. I also didn't see any activity on the water so to speak. As in no shad and no birds up above looking for said shad. When it is going full out down there you will see those types of things. IMO it just isn't quite there yet for a smack down on the whites unless you have the boat to get to them.