Eye opener for sure

[tjm]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

they preferred one color over the other. 

one shade of gray over the others might be more factual, but until we talk to them and they answer we won't know. What  we do know is that colors are simply not visible at all below certain depths because those wavelengths are fully absorbed by the water.

[DADAKOTA]

You mean FFS doesn't tell you which color to throw?

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, DADAKOTA said:

You mean FFS doesn't tell you which color to throw?

You get to see how the fish react to the bait.  So Yeah, it actually does.  

[Al Agnew]

12 hours ago, dblades said:

The trip when I found color was definitely important was a dark and stormy night tournament on Table Rock. My partner was absolutely kicking my tail on tomato red salt craws. I couldn't get a bite on any other of the normal colors fished at night and he only had 6 of them. Finally he tossed a torn up one in the bottom of the boat, I rigged it up, bam first cast landed the only fish I caught all night.

But this is the kind of thing that makes absolutely no sense.  At night, there is very little light to penetrate to begin with, and because at night the rods in the fish's eye, which ONLY see monochrome grays, take over.  (Same as with us humans, next time there's a good moonlit night, go outside and see if you see ANY color...you won't. And that's with NO water in between you and what you're looking at.  With fish, the water would absorb what little light of every wavelength there is.)  So color shouldn't matter at all at night; only contrast between the lure and whatever background the fish is viewing it.  And you can't tell me that there will be any difference in contrast between tomato red and green pumpkin, for instance.

[dblades]

12 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

But this is the kind of thing that makes absolutely no sense.  At night, there is very little light to penetrate to begin with, and because at night the rods in the fish's eye, which ONLY see monochrome grays, take over.  (Same as with us humans, next time there's a good moonlit night, go outside and see if you see ANY color...you won't. And that's with NO water in between you and what you're looking at.  With fish, the water would absorb what little light of every wavelength there is.)  So color shouldn't matter at all at night; only contrast between the lure and whatever background the fish is viewing it.  And you can't tell me that there will be any difference in contrast between tomato red and green pumpkin, for instance.

Didn't make sense too me either but it happened

[tjm]

I think in a situation like the salt craw story that only that batch (which happened to be red) had some anomaly that wasn't obvious when in the hand, but triggered the fish; they had some defect that caused erratic movement, or some imbalance, or similar, and that if you had a tomato red "anything else"  or even the same lure from a different production run that it would not have been any more successful than a purple or black lure.

 

[Flysmallie]

12 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

So color shouldn't matter at all at night; 

You are correct. It shouldn't, but it absolutely does at times. It's not a bait anomality either. 

I think the first thing you have to understand, is that we have no idea how a fish sees anything. 

[fishinwrench]

23 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

 

I think the first thing you have to understand, is that we have no idea how a fish sees anything

But wait.   A biologist said....... 🙄

[Maverickpro201]

It is like a climate scientist that is getting funding from the government. To tell you there is climate change is something that is happening. Well it has always been happening. You put a temperature gauge in a field 10 years ago and now there is a subdivision, and a shopping center there, with asphalt streets, Asphalt roofs on houses. And the temperature there now has risen by 4 or 5 degrees and that area now floods, due to the run-off of the roads and roofs. Go figure. 

No one really knows what a fish sees. It is all speculation. One will say one thing and another something else. Especially if the tax payers are funding it.

Who really cares?

Sorry I am in a bad mood, up since 0230 shoulder killing me and the pain meds have really not kicking in like they should   

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, Maverickpro201 said:

No one really knows what a fish sees. It is all speculation. One

Exactly!!! 
 

1 hour ago, Maverickpro201 said:

orry I am in a bad mood, up since 0230 shoulder killing me and the pain meds have really not kicking in like they should   

More booze maybe?😆