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Turner Jones micro jigs

First question, first.  Yes he made several jigs and prototypes.  He made Bill Beck and I some float and fly jigs also and they were unreal for early season Bass.  Merlin Olsen was a fly fisherman and was fishing the Green River, either early 80's or late 70's.  His guide used the "New fly/jig and of course they ripped them."  Merlin immediately wrote Mr. Jones and asked if he was in need or would like a spokes person for his Micro's.  Merlin said he would be that person free of any obligation other than Mr. Jones giving him all the Micro Jigs he needed to keep catching trout.  Deal was done and a match was made.

Prior to and after Turner's passing his Grand Daughter who lives pretty much off the grid made them for Phil and a few other of their better clients.  She  ran out of materials and there was some problem with stolen molds and other equipment from Turner's estate.  Kind of a tangled web, to say the very least.

At one time Turner took a partner, a young woman who he thought was going to help him.  She immediately stole lots of written information and molds and sold them to Lucky Strike and that's how they started making the product.  Thru much legal battling Mr. Jones got this stopped as he related to me. The jigs Lucky Strike made were similar but trash, there is a bonding process that adheres the  miniscule single strand of Hen Hackle under a colored collar of shrink wrap that holds this together.  There is no tie thread or no marabou as Turner said it makes the jig way to heavy and not realistic.  Both thread and marabou add bulk and this fly is extremely streamline and zero bulk.

After he molded and painted the head and added the eyes he then added the shrink wrap and hackle body and then clear coated the head and the attaching wrap.  Multiple steps that he said had to be exercised correctly to make the fly as life like as possible.  He said it is either a newly hatched sculpin or a small minnow imitation.  He also made Sculpin jigs that the head was an identical match for a very small sculpin.

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We ended up this morning with 62 fish for 3 clients on this jig.  The fish here are extremely fat and healthy with lots of fish in the 13 to 17 inch range.

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On 6/9/2018 at 2:20 PM, Bill Babler said:

You can catch trout on anything from a marsh mellow to a hot dog.  You can also catch them on most any fly or jig that has or will ever be invented that looks like some kind of a bug or aquatic insect.  What ever you have confidence.in usually is the best deal.  Duane's jig looks fantastic, and cannot wait to try them, I'm sure they are fish catchers.

I tied some on TJ  heads and sent both Duane and Phil a picture a few weeks back.  They were tied with a lot heaver bulk similar to a wooley.  They worked on breeze and water movement, current or breeze, and worked well.  Not so much on the flat water conditions we have had recently.

That doesn't change the fact that the 1/2 micro really, really catches fish on very poor water conditions, when others fly's may struggle somewhat.  Especially now with so much moss laying  on the bottom in the restricted zone.  We used to put a scud on or near the bottom, but it catches up and gets slimey pretty quick right now.

 With flat water and boat traffic out the wazoo today I could not get them to bite either a crawler or a power worm once the SUN hit the water and the onslaught of traffic hit. They did bite the 1/2 micro olive head, olive body fished on 6X enough for my guys to catch 20 or so on it, in the catch and keep zone, as they were looking for dinner.

I'm sure they would have done just as well with something else, but going back to confidence level in what your doing, I fished the 1/2 micro.

I know I am very fortunate and get to go a lot I have taken thousands of people over the years, spending again thousands and thousands of hours on Taneycomo.  It may not be worth a heck as a fly, and my intentions was never to besmirch anyone's creation.  The only way to describe it is extremely sparse, with no bulk and very little tail  but the TJ has taken care of me and my clients on Taneycomo for over 26 yrs. and probably close to 10 thousand clients.

I'll bow out of this now as it seems I have insulted people that I really respect and had no intention of causing a stir.

Good Luck

 

Guilty.  I've enjoyed poking you a time or two Bill, but whatever was said by whoever, I hope you don't take it wrong.  i've enjoyed reading this topic and your perspective and knowledge.  The jig is unique and it is a fish catcher, that is for sure.  Hope to meet you someday, BB.

 

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:01 PM, Gavin said:

Stopped by Hargove's fly shop this afternoon and tried to recreate with a 1/120 oz jig off the peg and materials laying about. The Heat shrink tubing was wrong. They use it to plastic weld loops in fly lines for customers who like a loop connection. No bite to the hook shank with that heat shrink. It would slide after shrunk, think I need the Aircraft grade waterproof tube with the glue layer inside to stick it to the shank. Thinking saddle hackle butts with a few barbs of webby saddle hackle fine barbs for the feathers. Left over Wooly Bugger feather butts mostly. Thinking 2 feathers. Fun project so far. No success yet but this puzzle has a solution.

I will give you the 2 jigs I have to deconstruct.  It can't be all that complicated.  Having the correct jig head is an important start.  The shrink tube and the right amount of feather without too much bulk is key.

 

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I would like to publicly apologize to Bill on here for poking at him. Bill is a very dear friend of mine and I love him to death!  Unfortunately, I did not treat him as a friend in this thread by not considering his feelings and respecting his well earned reputation and honor in trying to have a little fun.  I did personally apologize to him, but wanted everyone on this forum to know also.  

I do fish the Turner micro jig. Not very often.  Only when I have to catch fish and nothing else works.  At some point in time, we are going to have to find an alternative.  I hope we can get close!

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Text is such a poor form of communication... Hard to show sarcasm and snarkiness, and others may not know the personal relationships behind some of the ribbing that we give each other around here.  I know for sure that if all of us were on the water or around a fire there's likely not too many here who we wouldn't call good company.  

I for one have met some awesome folks here, and glad I've got the chance to meet them and fish with them.  @ColdWaterFshr that includes you good sir.  Despite our differences of opinion on certain topics I'd be down to fish with ya anytime.  And my apologies to you for any feathers I may have ruffled in the past... 

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Everyone  quit apologizing to me, no harm no foul, I thought I was the one with the stupid comment about 10X.   I was the drama Queen.   It's just a very unique product that is no longer made that at times makes fishing that is impossible seem simple.

For such a simple little thing it has so many components including size, color, lack of bulk, and about another dozen factors that make it for some reason really work on nasty, sunny, slick no breeze conditions when it is just flat tough out there.

On the other hand there are times when they won't give it more than a second look.

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