One of the greatest things about Missouri life....

[fishinwrench]

Is that we have choices.

I choose option #2

[Mitch f]

Hillary is a Hooded Merganser and Trump is a Spoonbill

[Old plug]

I do not think I will be voting for anyone for president. I do not want to have a guilt complex about what is about to happen. You all should be very concerned about the crazness that will take place no matter who gets the job. I am ashamed of what our political system and media has become. People are not thinking just watching the media and being told what to think. Our behavior makes me think of a bunch of lemming running to get over the cliff. I do not know if lemming take their young with them but we will. 

[Mitch f]

The media is the biggest loser in this election. You can't trust anything on the news anymore.

[Old plug]

I agree Mitch. But i believe the biggest loosers are us. But still out leadership is a mess. I know this last year of one senator that went bananas because the other party filibustered a bill that his party had made amendements to. The bill covered a totally different issue.  His party removed the attachnents from the bill and then when it came to a vote again he voted against the bill that he blamed the other party for trying to destroy. They make me sick with there garbage.

I worked for over 40 yrs in that place that burnt on Page in St Louis. i got to see a lot of legislation and if there is one thing we need it is to clean up the legislation process. I do not believe in amendment that do not apply to the subject of the Bill. I also am agaist earmarks. To me though the greatest offender of all is those Omnibus reconcilation acts. I have seen several some were as thick aa a phone book. They are filled with pork and backroom trade offs. Those legislators will fight to table sonethng then vote for it in the act becuse they got something in there they want passed. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

10 hours ago, Old plug said:

I do not think I will be voting for anyone for president.

I heard this over the weekend but can't remember who said it.

Voting for Hillary is like putting a gun to your head and blowing your head off.  Voting for Donald is like putting a gun to your head but it only has one bullet.  Eventually you will blow your head off.

[fishinwrench]

Well I don't see how anyone can claim that the media is full of lies and exaggeration, and in the same breath announce who they favor, or refuse to vote for, in the election. 

Since you don't know or interact with any of those people ever, the only window of intel you have is the one you claim is wrong/false/corrupt  yet you use the info gathered from that source to form your opinion.  You must either believe that you are telepathic, or that you have some god given lie detector built into your brain. (It's ok if you lie to me because I know the real deal automatically......Right!).

I'm not too sure that the voting process exists only so that when everything goes to hell you'll only have yourself to blame. 

Personally I don't trust the info I have enough to form an opinion, and giving me a deadline to form one is not going to change that.  

[Mitch f]

40 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Well I don't see how anyone can claim that the media is full of lies and exaggeration, and in the same breath announce who they favor, or refuse to vote for, in the election. 

Since you don't know or interact with any of those people ever, the only window of intel you have is the one you claim is wrong/false/corrupt  yet you use the info gathered from that source to form your opinion.  You must either believe that you are telepathic, or that you have some god given lie detector built into your brain. (It's ok if you lie to me because I know the real deal automatically......Right!).

I'm not too sure that the voting process exists only so that when everything goes to hell you'll only have yourself to blame. 

Personally I don't trust the info I have enough to form an opinion, and giving me a deadline to form one is not going to change that.  

I think virtually all of the "right wing conspiracy theories" were found to be true on wikileaks. I'm also sure the same thing is done on the republican side.

[Jerry Rapp]

I try to keep off political topics on Phil's forum, but just ask yourself who do you want to appoint the next few Supreme Court Justices?

[fishinwrench]

Either you or Phil is fine with me.