This one is for you MO Carp

[Smalliebigs]

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/37487728/115-pound-black-carp-caught-on-mississippi-river-in-cape-girardeau-to-be-studied-at-siuc?utm_content=buffereb598&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

  that is a BIG Carp..... The Mississippi by me holds soo many crazy things.....definitely
One of my favorite places to fish

[MoCarp]

I have never caught a black carp, I have heard of them spooling guys fishing in the Missouri, 

[Seth]

I like to think I'm fairly up on my freshwater fish species, but this is the first time I recall hearing about one. Looks like a darker version of a grass carp.

[fishinwrench]

34 minutes ago, Seth said:

I like to think I'm fairly up on my freshwater fish species, but this is the first time I recall hearing about one. Looks like a darker version of a grass carp.

Carp guys always wanna give their genetic freaks their own species classification.    If they caught one with a torn fin, a missing eye, or a big nasty sore on its side they would declare it a rare and special sub-species.  

I think carp anglers are a rare and special sub-species.

[snagged in outlet 3]

Looks like a koi

[BilletHead]

         Just another example of another invasive species we don't need here. Like other carp species "naturalized " or not. 

https://mdc.mo.gov/newsroom/mdc-invasive-black-carp-weren-t-supposed-be-capable-reproducing-they-are

https://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/field-guide/black-carp

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/scientists-discovery-of-young-wild-black-carp-troubling/article_624df08d-ad26-52b8-8acc-eb95e12965fd.html

   I don't care if they fight well or not they do not belong here.  

  BilletHead may begin to go postal on every carp he catches targeted or not.

BilletHead

[bfishn]

1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

 ...BilletHead may begin to go postal on every carp he catches...

I don't think the mailman wants 'em either.

[MoCarp]

these are not related to common carp, but one of the true "asian" carp that were used in carp pond aquaculture, they fear they may eat all the native mussels, the ones the shellers harvest to make buttons and the inserts that oysters coat "mother of pearl' in the cultured pearl industry that has over harvested our large native mussels....back in the day they had factories that made buttons, the industrialization and the mass consumption of native mollusks at the turn of the century is what devastated what was once massive shell banks in the big river systems, and again the massive floods of 94 washed them into our big river systems, these "carp" Mylopharyngodon piceus are not even closely related to common carp, crappie are closer related to LMB than common carp are to black carp, black carp get big bigger than any of the true asian "carp" they get 2.2 meters long thats well over 6 feet!  the potential of them destroying native mussels is a probability....I am unsure how much "legal" shelling is done in the state anymore, or the impact of zebra mussels on them..its an interesting read.... I asked in our CAG group no-one has ever caught one yet, however the black carp look a lot like grass carp...to be fair our native mussels were getting hammered long before black carp got into the big rivers, how many are out there? no-one knows....I have a friend lives and fishes the Missouri was going to try and use a 1/2 oyster grit 1/2 dehydrated canned oyster boilies to temp one in the Missouri near KC, and up his gear to see if any monsters lurk there, he has been spooled a couple of times and thought it may have been logs floating deep in the current, now after this report he's not so sure (logs don't float upstream!)....

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USGS

 This species was first brought into the United States in the early 1970s as a "contaminant" in imported grass carp stocks. These fish came from Asia and were sent to a private fish farm in Arkansas (Nico et al. 2005). Subsequent introductions of black carp into this country occurred in the early 1980s. During this period it was imported as a food fish and as a biological control agent to combat the spread of yellow grub Clinostomum margaritum in aquaculture ponds (Nico et al. 2005). The first known record of an introduction of black carp into open waters occurred in Missouri in 1994 when thirty or more black carp along with several thousand bighead carp reportedly escaped into the Osage River, Missouri River drainage, when high water flooded hatchery ponds at an aquaculture facility near Lake of the Ozarks. Recently, owners of the Missouri facility where the escapes reportedly took place have denied that black carp ever escaped from their facility (Nico et al. 2005). In any case, flooding of aquaculture facilities and associated numbers and types of escaped fishes are very poorly documented in the public record. There is evidence that large portions of the lower Mississippi River basin where aquaculture farms are present have been subject to large-scale floods on a number of occasions over the past few decades. Consequently, it is likely that the source of some or all of the black carp present in the lower Mississippi River basin. Nearly all fish farms with black carp are in lowland areas and flood events increase the probability that more black carp will eventually escape fish farms (Nico et al. 2005:245). There is also risk that black carp may be spread by other means. According to one aquaculture farmer, hundreds of young black carp were accidentally included in shipments of live baitfish sent from Arkansas to bait dealers in Missouri as early as 1994 (Nico et al. 2004:5). In addition, because of the continued widespread distribution of grass carp across the United States, there remains the possibility that shipments may inadvertently contain black carp (Nico et al. 2005). Juveniles, in particular, are difficult to distinguish from grass carp young. As such, Nico et al. (2005) expressed concern over the increased risk that the species be misidentified and unintentionally introduced as "grass carp" to some areas.

 

https://steverobert.wordpress.com/mussel-bound/

[MoCarp]

here is a monster from China, only fish we have that gets this big are sturgeon and perhaps paddlefish

[Smalliebigs]

2 hours ago, BilletHead said:

         Just another example of another invasive species we don't need here. Like other carp species "naturalized " or not. 

https://mdc.mo.gov/newsroom/mdc-invasive-black-carp-weren-t-supposed-be-capable-reproducing-they-are

https://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/field-guide/black-carp

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/scientists-discovery-of-young-wild-black-carp-troubling/article_624df08d-ad26-52b8-8acc-eb95e12965fd.html

   I don't care if they fight well or not they do not belong here.  

  BilletHead may begin to go postal on every carp he catches targeted or not.

BilletHead

I feel the same way about Trout in Missouri