Al Gore

[Smalliebigs]

One thing I do know is this......The opinions of some guys on a fishing forum about our alleged doom coming because our climate is changing is pure entertainment to me.

hahahahahahahaha......you guys messing with Wrench because he has an opinion just like you do, just not the same is about as gay as it gets.

 

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, Terrierman said:

If I was a wrench hater you'd be on ignore.  I just don't buy all of your B.S. and call you on it.  Don't be that guy who likes to dish it out but can't take it. 

Well I missed which part you weren't buying, and what you are calling me on. 

Help me out here.   

[Terrierman]

 

16 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Well I missed which part you weren't buying, and what you are calling me on. 

Help me out here.   

The part about wind turbines never paying out in this instance.

[Terrierman]

22 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I'm not claiming to be smarter than anyone, but it is my understanding that a wind generator cannot generate enough power, before it has to be replaced, to pay for another wind generator, even taking into consideration that the materials can be recycled.   Therefore it is a looser.   

Kinda like paying 20.00 for every 5.00 bill.  You're investing poorly.  

This one.  Seriously.  If they never paid out do you honestly think there would be thousands and thousands of them all across the world?

[MoCarp]

3 hours ago, David Unnerstall said:

Remember in the nine-ties scientists recognized that acid-rain was killing forests in the north-east.  Government enacted laws to reduce its causes.  Industry followed those laws and now forests are slowly recovering.

 

 

Today scientists are telling us the earth is getting warmer because of man-made greenhouse gases.  But we choose to believe politicians and talk-radio show personalities.

 

 

And CarpMan; you wanting to believe that the ozone hole was a hoax when, in fact, it was fixed by following scientists recommendations and changing our behavior tells me all I need to know.

 

 

What about gravity?  Is that a hoax, also?

 

 

Dude the warmest year shown in ice cores is 8000 years ago..,why?

so we are warming again and our c02 is up 100ppm from 300ppm

thats 100 pennies vs a pile of one million!

the debate is IF man is the cause.

the hole in the ozone was found to wax and wane due to the seasons and after 20 years it seems it isn’t healed, blaming it on global warming now or some sea life the whales are not eating ( save the whales 🐳) most of these issues IMHO are cyclic, every few hundred thousand years the earths magnetic field weakens and flips, it’s going on now, interestingly the area of depleted ozone is not North America or Europe but Antarctica and near a funky place called the south Atlantic anomaly check that out.

Seems someone is still spraying their pits with CFC right guard and using all those ozone killers but it’s not the western world.  

Two guys discovered the ozone hole in 1985 NASA backed them up.,,cool, but seems heat and UV sunlight makes ozone, wait what? And that only in the Antarctic winter does it get cold enough for this CFC interaction to happen.

Check this out, be a bytch if global warming saves the earth or worse we end up stopping it and die from a huge ozone hole..

ever since I was in grade school we have jumped from one environmental apocalypse to another. I went to university to be a scientist..I still study because that what I like.

.Like most of the left, they think we are drones who march lockstep to Rush Limbaugh and Trump. We neocons are unable to grasp the issues like the elite, lowering one’s carbon footprint, driving E-cars going vegan, vaping marijuana wax is what the cool kids are doing

well seems the leftists buy their kids educators...and deplorables are weak minded? Now to even question is screamed at. And opposition neocon speech is removed from social media platforms to project the agenda 

http://www.theozonehole.com/askthescientist.htm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/02/06/sorry-earth-the-ozone-layer-isnt-healing-itself-after-all/

[tjm]

didn't polar ice cap used to cover most of the USA?

[fishinwrench]

5 hours ago, Terrierman said:

This one.  Seriously.  If they never paid out do you honestly think there would be thousands and thousands of them all across the world?

Well I guess it depends on which accountant gives the report.  Because the one I read clearly showed that on average a wind turbine generator does not last long enough to pay for itself, and to allow the ones building, installing them to make a profit.   

Apparently studies are bias (shocker hu?).   So with differing results being posted let's shift gears on our debate and decide which one we can all agree to listen to....then we can proceed.

[snagged in outlet 3]

I looked at solar when I needed a new roof.    My electric bill is so cheap it would take 50 years just to break even.  I doubt the system would last that long.  

I cant believe solar panels haven’t gotten better over the years.  

I think Al is right.  If you don’t subsidize new technology while you subsidize the old you might as well give up. I cannot believe we give subsidize oil companies.  

[Deadstream]

  I think it's been a long, cold winter and cabin fever is running rampant.  Lets fish.

[Terrierman]

34 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Well I guess it depends on which accountant gives the report.  Because the one I read clearly showed that on average a wind turbine generator does not last long enough to pay for itself, and to allow the ones building, installing them to make a profit.   

Apparently studies are bias (shocker hu?).   So with differing results being posted let's shift gears on our debate and decide which one we can all agree to listen to....then we can proceed.

I for one have always been a believer that markets eventually find the truth.