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[fishinwrench]

11 minutes ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

Missing your point 

You used "poor economic conditions" as a reason NOT to file suit against someone further harming ones career unjustifiably.   

Poor economic conditions would warrant it EVEN MORE!  

[ColdWaterFshr]

13 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

You used "poor economic conditions" as a reason NOT to file suit against someone further harming ones career unjustifiably.   

Poor economic conditions would warrant it EVEN MORE!  

“Pro bono attorney seeks work for slanderous internet libel case” —— said no work-wanted ad ever.🤣🤣🤣.  

You’re joking, right?

[Al Agnew]

16 hours ago, Mitch f said:

The scariest part of the whole thing is how YouTube is blocking free speech… Free speech must be a thing of the past. I guess Ronald Reagan was right when he said we’re only one generation away from losing everything. 

Mitch, I honestly don’t think it’s Youtube doing it. I suspect the producer of this slick, professional video are the ones doing it. I think they have figured out a way to make it go down after a certain amount of time or certain number of views in order to make it look like the powers that be are suppressing it. Think about it. This woman has misrepresented who she is, where she worked, and what she published. 

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

“Pro bono attorney seeks work for slanderous internet libel case” —— said no work-wanted ad ever.🤣🤣🤣.  

You’re joking, right?

Dude, those people have legal teams on full time retainer.   Ain't no pro bono crap going on, they're getting paid anyway.   An opportunity like "totally unjustified retaliatory slander"  just helps cover their fees for (possibly) the next 5 years or so.  They'd be ignorant to pass that up.

No sir.  The only reason that wouldn't be launched is out of fear that something even more sinister might be unearthed.

You know what I do for a living.  May I ask how you get along?   

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

This woman has misrepresented who she is, where she worked, and what she published.

What is the concrete evidence of that claim?  I must have missed it. 

It almost resembles a religious belief.   Two maps were handed to us, and you without hesitation took the left turn.  Who instructed you on which way to go? 😊 

Not that I've taken the RIGHT turn....but I deduct from the reaction of the accused to stop at the crossroads long enough to see if the wind changes direction.

[Jerry Rapp]

5 hours ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

Nah, there is so much nonsense flying around these days, phony documentaries like this, internet garbage, emails that get forwarded again and again.  Who wants to chase down those rabbit holes and pay attorneys big money, especially in these economic conditions, for little hope of payback or reconciliation of reputation.  The BS is so fast and furious these days—- why play in the sewer?

 Mitch drinks from it daily.   Rural Missouri drinks from it daily.  Orange Satan lovers bathe in it.  

boy, this is the old pot calling the kettle black.  The fly by night liberal sneak attacker has spoken politically again.

[Mitch f]

6 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

Mitch, I honestly don’t think it’s Youtube doing it. I suspect the producer of this slick, professional video are the ones doing it. I think they have figured out a way to make it go down after a certain amount of time or certain number of views in order to make it look like the powers that be are suppressing it. Think about it. This woman has misrepresented who she is, where she worked, and what she published. 

Granted, the video looks like it’s directed like an academy award winning thriller. And it might be doing exactly what you say to create a sense that she is being censored, the hype could help her sell her new book. And the whole anti-vaxxing crowd is behind her, even though she claims not to be one. I’m not a part of the anti-vaxxers by the way. I guess more will come out on her soon.

i did see this quote yesterday:

From: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr:

“Judy Mikovits is among her generation’s most accomplished scientists. She joined NIH in 1980 as a Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology at the National Cancer Institute. Dr. Mikovits began a 20-year collaboration with Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retro virology. She helped Dr Russetti isolate the HIV virus + link it to #AIDS in 1983. Her NIH boss Anthony Fauci delayed publication of that critical paper for 6 months to let his protégé Robert Gallo replicate, publish and claim credit. The delay in mass HIV testing let AIDS further spread around the globe + helped Fauci win promotion to director NIAID.

In 2006, Dr Mikovits became director of Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease + collaborated with Dr Ruscetti searching for the cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which suddenly became epidemic in the 1980s. The male dominated medical community dismissed CFS as psychosomatic “yuppie flu" caused when fragile females cracked in corporate jobs.

Dr. Mikovits discovered that 67% of affected women carried a virus—called Xenotropic Murine Leukemia related Virus—that appeared in healthy women only 4% of the time.

XMRV is also associated with prostate, breast, ovarian cancers, leukemia, and multiple myeloma. Many women with XMRV bore children with autism.
In 2009, Drs. Mikovits and Ruscetti published their explosive findings in the journal Science. But the question remained: How was XMRV getting into people?

Other researchers linked the first CFS outbreak to a polio vaccine given to doctors and nurses that resulted in the "1934 Los Angeles County Hospital Epidemic." That vaccine was cultivated on pulverized mouse brains. Retroviruses from dead animals can survive in cell lines and permanently contaminate vaccines.

Dr Mikovits’ studies suggested that the XMRV Virus was present in the MMR, Polio + Encephalitis vaccines given to American children + soldiers.

Dr Fauci ordered Mikovits to keep her mouth shut. When she refused, he illegally confiscated her work books and hard drives, drove her from government work + blackballed her from receiving NIH grants ending her science career. XMRV remains in American vaccines.”
 

In an opposite but parallel sense, this reminds me of that book Silent Spring, by Rachel Carson, written long ago but still considered a great literary piece in most colleges... where she blasts the use of pesticides but doesn’t  mention the lives saved from the lack of malaria outbreaks. Maybe my comparison needs a little work, but they are both bucking establishments of the opposite political parties, but are both whistle blowers so to speak.

[tjm]

Is Kennedy as an anti-vaccine activist above suspicion of  endorsing pseudoscience? Given his family background if there was a good conspiracy theory here he should be on the establishment side, eh?

Certainly there are questions unanswered and plenty of room for speculation but with our corporate owned government we aren't like to ever know the facts. After all where is the profit in curing people? The money is tied to continued research and ever spreading fear.  

[Quillback]

7 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

Mitch, I honestly don’t think it’s Youtube doing it. I suspect the producer of this slick, professional video are the ones doing it. I think they have figured out a way to make it go down after a certain amount of time or certain number of views in order to make it look like the powers that be are suppressing it. Think about it. This woman has misrepresented who she is, where she worked, and what she published. 

YouTube had removed several versions of the videos by Thursday morning for violating its community guidelines.

“We quickly remove flagged content that violates our Community Guidelines, including content that includes medically unsubstantiated diagnostic advice for COVID-19,” a YouTube spokesperson said in a statement to NBC News.

[top_dollar]

11 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Waste time?   You're crazy.  

There are plenty of people that hate me.  Where are the ones posting things on Social media, like "he ripped me off", "he stole tackle out of my boat", or  "he caused my motor to blow up"?  

You know why nobody does that?  I'd love for someone to do it, cuz I'd retire on their dime and fish happily ever after.       Making up destructive lies and posting them on social media will (and should) get you a law suit.   Especially if you're slandering people and organizations whose integrity and well being depends mostly on their reputation.  

Lol no you wouldn't.  Defamation lawsuits are extremely hard to win, and more costly than they are worth.  In reality, if someone said you stole tackle from them, you would spend a fortune trying to prove they lied because no lawyer would take that case without a massive retainer fee.  Then there would be a very small chance that you could prove he lied and the suit would be thrown out.  Trump has famously said he wants to "loosen" libel laws so he can successfully sue news outlets that post negative stories about him.  That never happened, and never will.