tjm Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Maverickpro201 said: And if so where may I find it? https://www.sos.mo.gov/cmsimages/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-4.pdf 3 CSR 10-4.110 (7) No person who takes or possesses any wildlife shall wantonly leave or abandon any portion of such wildlife commonly used as human food.
tjm Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, BilletHead said: No, I have not but have heard they do enforce. I've found dozens of deer (during seasons) over the years with just the back straps taken and have thought about the likelihood of an agent being there when the carcass was dumped and the difficulty or impossibility of tracing the criminal from the faint evidence to get a conviction. My conclusion is that regulation is more of a suggestion. Once that dead fish sinks, it's "where's the evidence?" With each agent covering an area as large as a small state (or a European country), my guess is they don't have much time for wanton waste. Daryk Campbell Sr 1
BilletHead Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, tjm said: https://www.sos.mo.gov/cmsimages/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-4.pdf portion of such wildlife commonly used as human food. This is where the gray area is. The word commonly is up to who decides to what that is. "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
Flysmallie Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 When I was growing up I didn’t have to worry about this. My dad would have kicked my butt if I would have done any of that. Maybe their daddies were pussies and didn’t teach them to be responsible. The other ones that bother me is the people that refuse to let a nice fish go because they have never caught one that big before. They would rather give it to someone they have never met than just let it go. Ik314 1
Gavin Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 I wonder how many tons of freezer burned crappie fillets get hauled to the landfill every year. mschmls, MoCarp and Ik314 2 1
tjm Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, tjm said: that regulation is more of a suggestion 44 minutes ago, Gavin said: I wonder how many tons of freezer burned crappie fillets get hauled to the landfill every year. Well, obviously no one has more than 60 fish in the freezer, but the freezer burn would exempt them as not something "commonly used as human food".
Ketchup Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Wanton waste can come in the form of just about anything edible. I too have done as mentioned, and thrown a few fish back as to not have to clean them. Heck, just last month i had the family out, caught a couple whites, kept livewell pumping on the way home. Pulled in the driveway and a neighbor came over. After his hour visit it was dark and i went in, took a shower and off to bed. Went out to the shop 4 days later and smelled something fishy. Yep, they were still in there. Every November if you drive much at all, you will see deer dumped that had enough meat on them to feed a family of 12 for 3 months. TinBoats BassClub. An aluminum only bass club. If interested in info send me a PM.
Johnsfolly Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 18 hours ago, BilletHead said: Bingo! Have seen it happen soooooo many times. Here is one example. Folks fishing off the Caplinger mills bridge, bank fisherman too. Note not everyone is like this but here goes. A person or persons goes fishing thinking they will catch a mess. Get some water in a five-gallon bucket. Fish and pitch them in the now hot water oxygen deplete water. Instantly the fish go belly up and gills go white. Dang it's not such a good day and I don't want to clean three fish. End of trip bucket gets dumped over the rail or back into water. I often even hate keeping that first fish unless I am confident of catching a few more to round out a meal. I wonder if when we do get that one or two that we keep and use as crab bait if that is use enough to not break those laws. As you know we use the shanks. Where we would fall short in Alaska would be getting the between the rib meat. Usually we leave that on our carcasses. BilletHead and Ik314 2
grizwilson Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Johnsfolly said: I often even hate keeping that first fish unless I am confident of catching a few more to round out a meal. I wonder if when we do get that one or two that we keep and use as crab bait if that is use enough to not break those laws. As you know we use the shanks. Where we would fall short in Alaska would be getting the between the rib meat. Usually we leave that on our carcasses. @Johnsfolly you might want to keep the ribs, we smoke them. Look kinda like the Flintstones when eating, until I started sawing them in half. Darn good eatin. BilletHead 1 “If a cluttered desk is a sign, of a cluttered mind, of what then, is an empty desk a sign?”- Albert Einstein
MoCarp Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 In recent months a push has been made to limit the BFing of fish and dumping them back it avoids fish disposal…in Missouri the Asian carp ( big head,silver,grass and black carp) and common carp have no limits…however the other “ roughfish” do its 20 and they are supposed to be retained…theses native fish have been under a great deal of study of late…seems they make up 60-90% of BFed fish….some new regulations specifically eliminates the legal practice of shoot and release…..it’s since accelerated since the dumping of over 1000 gar shot in a single night in Oklahoma and dumped…biologists got a wake up call on impact to some species…..black buffalo is listed as special status with alligator gar with a one fish limit and notification of the kill to the state…..times are a changing MONKEYS? what monkeys?
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