Not political, but just curious......

[Terrierman]

28 minutes ago, bfishn said:

I closed out the '70s as an Electronics Performance Inspector for a KC defense contractor that was running >6K employees over 3 shifts churning out guidance, fuzing, radar and other assemblies for a variety of nukes. Hired in with 32 others of my kind in a 'batch'. We all got paid union wage to sit on our butts reading magazines for the 90 days it took the FBI (before they farmed it out to contractors) to talk to everyone that knew us since we were born, looking for any reason to drop you. 6 or 7 lost out right off. Another half dozen were removed over the next year for lying in their interviews.

I specialized in reinspection. Testing random samples of stockpiled assemblies and sub-assemblies, mostly ASROC. Got to closely examine some really cool stuff. Testing included everything but destructive, you put your item in a 500 degree oven and test it. then a dip in liquid nitrogen... and test it. Then on the arm of a 5G centrifuge... and test it. This was done exactly per written, classified files you had to check out and return in the same shift. You had to prove a need-to-know purpose for your material. Those file keeper guys were some no-fun-havin, miserable SOBs. Point is, everyone knew that not only their livelihood, but perhaps even someone's life depended on never disclosing what you know. Ever.

That's my experience with classified documents. I've since realized that at the other end of that chain lies a handful of people that not only can, but need to access everything. The early me wants anyone who abuses that access to pay dearly. The old me ain't so sure.

I'm like the early you.

[jdmidwest]

8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

My daughter who aced Statistics compiled that figure.  It was over a 4 year period (which for some reason made determining it easier).   

One was a Merc 60 overhaul on a pontoon that checked fine everytime I retested it..... but supposedly had issues at times during their trips out.  It didn't help that the toons leaked like crazy, but they refused to address that problem. I never could get the engine to act up like they claimed.  Nevertheless they became frustrated with me.....and I failed to make them happy customers.  

The others were just piddly stuff, like delays on backordered parts, or NLA parts, and various other things out of my control.....but nevertheless I acquired the negative marks for it. 

It's easy to tell when folks are genuinely happy, they leave with handshakes and smiles, often call to say "thanks" after running the engine awhile, rave about you on social media,.....and they refer all their friends 👍😊 

None of them appear to dislike me because of my personality (like some of you here do😅), so my "approval rating" skyrockets everytime I log off of THIS PLACE.  😂 Oh, and I've been completely banned from the BBC forum.

Big black c... forum?  Is it a crappie place?

[fishinwrench]

1 minute ago, jdmidwest said:

Big black c... forum?  Is it a crappie place?

LMAO 🤣 

Bass Boat Central, ya pecker head !   

Good bunch of members, but the mods are notorious polak power trippers with no sense of humor at all.   

[Seth]

Anybody that doesn't like putting some fresh BBCs in their mouth is a liar! 😁

[Dutch]

19 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

LMAO 🤣 

Bass Boat Central, ya pecker head !   

Good bunch of members, but the mods are notorious polak power trippers with no sense of humor at all.   

Maybe that is why they have over 100,000 members.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Dutch said:

21 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

 

Maybe that is why they have over 100,000 members

PETA has over 100k members too.  

The Westboro Baptist church might also.   

BLM ?  

Sons of Anarchy ?

KKK ?

Watermark Wakeboat forum ? (You should see what those guys think of us fishermen)

 

I'm failing to understand the point.   😅

 

[fishinwrench]

This belongs here....

[Jerry Rapp]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

This belongs here....

the fact that this just quietly goes away just amazes me.  The media is as complicit as the politicians.  We are not represented by anybody or anything that gives one rats butt about us, the taxpayers.

[fishinwrench]

47 minutes ago, Jerry Rapp said:

We are not represented by anybody or anything that gives one rats butt about us, 

I'm sorry if you had the impression that we were, or have ever been.  

In '06 I came to the realization that the county I live in is so corrupt it's sickening.  I started looking closer at the state level and realized it was even worse there.   Nationally?   Well, the degree, no doubt, escalates even more.  

One person.....a genuine oath follower, could begin to turn it all back around.  But that person doesn't exist because of fear for his, and his families, life. 

In the media's defense, several try to push issues......But everyone just gets tired of hearing about those things, and their ratings plummet.   Nobody TRULY cares enough.  

[Flyfisher for men]

On 1/25/2023 at 4:39 PM, fishinwrench said:

I've always wondered.....If there is information that only a select few are privy to knowing, then WHY are there "documents" created that contain that information?     

How can there be trust in anything/or anyone, if there is so much information that only a select few are allowed to know?   

If it's SO IMPORTANT, do they really need to create documents about it?  Why? So the few that are allowed to know don't forget it ?   🤔

 

Some things do need to be written down and stored away. And it could be years later that you need to access it. 

I've actually worked with declassified documents in a class held years ago at the Eisenhower library, part of my education as a history major. One of my classmates in particular ran into all sorts of classified documents on his topic, the Hungarian Revolution. That is the sort of thing that could expose intelligence channels, agents, etc.  

My topic was the St. Lawrence Seaway. That got into all kinds of assessments of U.S. and Canadian industrial capacities and military strengths, and that meant NATO. The data was extensive and needed preserved for reference, but you obviously wouldn't want just anyone to see it, particularly in the heights of the Cold War.   There were still a few documents under a classified status of some sort and therefore inaccessible. I didn't need to, but I could have requested a review of them for potential declassification. My guess is that they involved Canada.