MDC Rant

[SpoonDog]

11 hours ago, Ketchup said:

The state, in ANY way, has spent a single penny towards those deer that roam my property, and my neighbors properties. I have never understood the argument “these deer belong to the state” That is a crock of crap. They spend money on public areas, not my property. I don’t need, nor want their help with maintaining my property,, therefore I don’t want to be forced to be in a program that keeps track of “private” deer on my “private” property. 

The state re-stocked the deer in the 30's and 40's, the state managed those small populations so they'd grow and expand, offering the hunting opportunities we have today.  Without the state's investment and management, your private property may not have those game populations.  CWD's taught us these animals don't just move between adjacent landowners, they're crossing county boundaries.  "Your" deer may have been born miles away, it may only spend a fraction of its life on your plot.   Because the state reintroduced them, and the state managed them to current abundances, and they're roaming across large swaths of private and public land...they're the state's animals. 

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A deeded piece of property with my name on it would prove your words wrong, as well as the legal system. Because it is mine, i can sell it, pass it down, trade it, donate it, etc. Yes it is mine as long as im alive. 

The same legal system which doesn't recognize the concept of "private" deer?  Legally, you purchased the land.  You didn't purchase the animals.  They weren't included in the deed, there's no bill of sale, you're not paying taxes on them...the legal system you're invoking doesn't recognize them as "your" deer. 

As far as landowner tag info- that landowner's probably already provided their name, address, and property size to the bank when they made the loan.  To the agent when they were insured.  To the county when they filed property taxes.  All of that information is already freely available at any public library with a plat book and a phone book, and has been pert near a century. Heck, in many counties it's all accessible online, for free. 

If supplying exactly the same information to MDC makes you feel "watched," perhaps that isn't a rational reaction. 

[Ketchup]

3 hours ago, Johnsfolly said:

Likely giving away more information by being on this forum or buying airguns and materials on line than the MDC is getting from your farm tags.

in which manner? Neither of those you mention have my personal name attached. 

[tjm]

Whatever machine you use to access the internet in either instance has a identifier built in that it transmits before you can make a connection, this ID can be easily traced to you and give your exact location without your input or in your case your knowledge. Both those transactions required some means of communicating back to, email?, You are hooked into the worldwide data center as you read this and they can suss out every single key stroke you have ever made online. You should feel the hair stand up on your neck because we are being watched even as we click enter on each post. 

For what it's worth, when I or a family member gets those landowner tags, the only questions walmart asks is what county the land is in and my MDC number- the computer already knows the rest of the story. They have never asked me for an ID.

If you have a state issued ID such as a drivers license, your entire history is accessible from that ID number.  All those hidden security cameras in every retail store you enter can identify you from computer generated facial recognition.  You are being watched always because you are a threat to every one you disagree with. If you have a cell phone every single time you use it you are alerting the watchers of your exact location at  that moment.

MDC is the least of your worries.

[Ketchup]

18 minutes ago, tjm said:

Whatever machine you use to access the internet in either instance has a identifier built in that it transmits before you can make a connection, this ID can be easily traced to you and give your exact location without your input or in your case your knowledge. Both those transactions required some means of communicating back to, email?, You are hooked into the worldwide data center as you read this and they can suss out every single key stroke you have ever made online. You should feel the hair stand up on your neck because we are being watched even as we click enter on each post. 

For what it's worth, when I or a family member gets those landowner tags, the only questions walmart asks is what county the land is in and my MDC number- the computer already knows the rest of the story. They have never asked me for an ID.

If you have a state issued ID such as a drivers license, your entire history is accessible from that ID number.  All those hidden security cameras in every retail store you enter can identify you from computer generated facial recognition.  You are being watched always because you are a threat to every one you disagree with. If you have a cell phone every single time you use it you are alerting the watchers of your exact location at  that moment.

MDC is the least of your worries.

Not a single one of these things comes into play in any way, in regards to my property. 

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

Someone posted about the MDC basically restocking deer in the 30’s. That is a far fetched conclusion, as it is possible the deer today, came from Kansas/Arkansas/ioaw, Illinois stock, as they know no boundaries. 

[Chief Grey Bear]

Did I really just read all of this crap??

 

[MOPanfisher]

Hurry up spring!

[Flysmallie]

2 hours ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

Did I really just read all of this crap??

 

Just read every third word. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

23 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

Just read every third word. 

Like skimming for a reading ability test in grade school😆

[MoCarp]

5 hours ago, Ketchup said:

Not a single one of these things comes into play in any way, in regards to my property. 

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

Someone posted about the MDC basically restocking deer in the 30’s. That is a far fetched conclusion, as it is possible the deer today, came from Kansas/Arkansas/ioaw, Illinois stock, as they know no boundaries. 

With justification “ get of my lawn you kids” brings out a totally new meaning😬

[Quillback]

5 hours ago, Ketchup said:

Not a single one of these things comes into play in any way, in regards to my property. 

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

Someone posted about the MDC basically restocking deer in the 30’s. That is a far fetched conclusion, as it is possible the deer today, came from Kansas/Arkansas/ioaw, Illinois stock, as they know no boundaries. 

Arkansas deer only have one tooth, so should be an easy ID.