Lie detector test, What is going on??

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On 2/23/2020 at 8:54 AM, Phil Lilley said:

Last time we had one administered one of the anglers did not pass. 
 

Curious what happened next?

I get the idea and it’s I’m sure it’s a deterrent, but they’re not foolproof. If you get a positive for deception, do you forfeit? Is it made public? 

[Flysmallie]

I've taken a lie detector test before and I will never take another one. I had to take one when I was a lot younger. Someone was stealing a lot of product from a store that I worked in. The whole process was very intimidating but I knew I was innocent so I had nothing to worry about. I failed it miserably. Luckily the real thief broke down and admitted to it. But that doesn't remove the fact that I failed even though I had nothing to do with anything being stolen. Never again. 

[tjm]

20 hours ago, Bill Babler said:

Probably won't be allowed to fish that circuit again but your still getting a check. 

If you fall into that group that doesn't register correctly then you have set yourself up to be considered guilty even if innocent. I wouldn't take one nor participate in a tourney that required one. If they were accurate enough to be used in any court or to impeach any politician, it might be  acceptable in a fishing contest, but they are not. They prove nothing at all and can stain a persons reputation. 

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Flysmallie said:

I've taken a lie detector test before and I will never take another one. I had to take one when I was a lot younger. Someone was stealing a lot of product from a store that I worked in. The whole process was very intimidating but I knew I was innocent so I had nothing to worry about. I failed it miserably. Luckily the real thief broke down and admitted to it. But that doesn't remove the fact that I failed even though I had nothing to do with anything being stolen. Never again. 

You didn't fail it.  They told you that you did hoping to get some kind of a confession..... because they probably had no real evidence on ANYONE at that time.  If you had broken down and confessed to ANYTHING that was contradictory to your words when initially interviewed.....then BOOM they now have real evidence in the form of a confession.   (either semi or solid)  

It's a psychological trick that works more times than not.   It isn't the "machine" that detects deception, it is the psychology scholar that is asking the questions.   It's a mind game.    

Like I said earlier, with kids you can do it with a few gummy bears and some fishing line.   With adults it helps to have something that appears way more technical. 😊  A special room, with a special chair facing AWAY from the "examiner", and some computer looking things, with lots of wires and sensors spread around.     It's kinda funny really.  

Most criminals are STUPID.... therefore it usually works to get an initial confession, and one confession leads to another through interrogation.

[Seth]

If anybody ever questions what I do in a tournament, wait a week and I'll have a video of it up on YouTube. 😁

[fishinwrench]

27 minutes ago, Seth said:

If anybody ever questions what I do in a tournament, wait a week and I'll have a video of it up on YouTube. 😁

I really want to start a YouTube channel.  Guys could learn alot of cool stuff about their boats/motors, and sharing it would be fun.  Besides that, the days around here are absolutely hilarious at times and I bet the channel would go stupid crazy with views and subscriptions.....and of course I'd have a genuine blast in the comment section.  😁

The major deterrent is that I have zero patience for learning about the editing and formatting, lighting would probably be a constant issue, and I'm not sure about the legalities of posting interactions with various people without explicit consent....and all that crap.    Too many headaches I'm afraid.  But if I could do it, it would be awesome.

 

[Bill Babler]

Funny story, when I went on the MSWP 40 years ago, we all took a detector test for fun at the MSHP academy.  There was an FBI agent there teaching a class on some type of federal regulation in regards to interstate thief or something of that nature.  He took it about 1/2 dozen times and lied his posterior off every time and passed with flying colors.  Some of his answers to the questions made the entire room come apart laughing. 

We also had a guy in our class that had been a Officer on the KCPD and he knew how to handle it too.  They asked this guy at least a dozen questions and he lied on everyone of them and  they said he had told the truth on every question.

Of course both of these guys were under no pressure and were relaxed as they knew they were messing with it.  

 

 

[aarchdale@coresleep.com]

3 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I really want to start a YouTube channel.  Guys could learn alot of cool stuff about their boats/motors, and sharing it would be fun.  Besides that, the days around here are absolutely hilarious at times and I bet the channel would go stupid crazy with views and subscriptions.....and of course I'd have a genuine blast in the comment section.  😁

The major deterrent is that I have zero patience for learning about the editing and formatting, lighting would probably be a constant issue, and I'm not sure about the legalities of posting interactions with various people without explicit consent....and all that crap.    Too many headaches I'm afraid.  But if I could do it, it would be awesome.

 

I would subscribe.   There is a lot of bad info on you tube when it comes to mechanicing...Also some real good ones.   I rebuilt a four wheeler motor last winter when i was bored and you tube was a big help 

[snagged in outlet 3]

4 minutes ago, aarchdale@coresleep.com said:

I would subscribe.   There is a lot of bad info on you tube when it comes to mechanicing...Also some real good ones.   I rebuilt a four wheeler motor last winter when i was bored and you tube was a big help 

I’ve fixed two refrigerators a couple times each using YouTube.  Both of my garage door opener motors too.  Both were the plastic planetary gears.  

[fishinwrench]

Patreon will kill the QUALITY free info on YT pretty soon. Probably as soon as they partner with Google.  Which is fine, as long as there's a way to get refunded if the instructional video is crap.