Johnsfolly Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Deadstream said: "does their job and proves they deserve a bigger role" That is the point. You EARN it. You have to crawl before you walk. I have received a lot of comments from staff that when I pay them more they will do more. Sorry I'm too old fashioned in that I reward those that show initiative and do more without asking to be compensated. Terrierman, tjm, nomolites and 2 others 3 2
Devan S. Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Johnsfolly said: I have received a lot of comments from staff that when I pay them more they will do more. Sorry I'm too old fashioned in that I reward those that show initiative and do more without asking to be compensated. That's how it should be but all of us know darn good and well that it doesn't always work that way especially if your talking about the corporate world. Sometimes the best way to get that reward is to jump ship.....which is exactly what a lot of people are doing right now. Terrierman, Nick Adams, fishinwrench and 1 other 4
Johnsfolly Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Devan S. said: Sometimes the best way to get that reward is to jump ship.....which is exactly what a lot of people are doing right now We are having that issue right now with many staff members that are less than 30 yrs old. We have been hit with stagnant revenues and have not had merit increases and only select promotional considerations for the last couple of years. I will imagine that if that trend continues this year we will lose an unprecedented number of older staff as well. trythisonemv and Terrierman 2
Terrierman Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Al Agnew said: Got anything to refute what I said, or are we just name-calling now? Please explain how we bring back manufacturing jobs without lowering wages and benefits and scrapping regulations so that we can compete with the Chinas and Indias of the world. Please explain how it's possible to employ every American who wants to work and make a living above the poverty line when we've become a service economy. Please explain how we provide good and useful education for youth in poverty in the inner cities and poor rural areas, so that they can be employed at good jobs above the poverty line. "Liberals" don't have any answer for this. Neither do conservatives. We all need to face the facts. Regardless of Trump's pie in the sky promises in 2016, the world has moved on, and things have changed. We need to start figuring out how to live with the world as it is, not try to bring it back to some former utopia that never existed. Does that mean raising minimum wage? I don't know. I doubt it. Raising the minimum wage to a level that allows such workers to live above the poverty line is almost sure to raise the price of the goods and services they produce, and then they are STILL below the new poverty line. And we've gone way too far down the road already of the upper management getting ever richer while the poor stay poor and the middle class disappears; the people with money have the power, and the people in power make the rules. Getting called a liberal shouldn't be a problem for a liberal. Surely it's not for me. I self identify as a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. And a redneck. Mitch f and marcusearlt 1 1
Mitch f Posted October 1, 2021 Author Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Gavin said: Taking his toys and going home😀! Still pissed Gavin? 😜 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Mitch f Posted October 1, 2021 Author Posted October 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, Terrierman said: Getting called a liberal shouldn't be a problem for a liberal. Surely it's not for me. I self identify as a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. And a redneck. And @Al Agnewhas called people Twats, liberal isn’t that bad after all. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Members ivegotafever Posted October 2, 2021 Members Posted October 2, 2021 No one is mad that people will soon make $15 an hour. People are mad that they should be making $35 an hour and believably so. Thinking that poor people getting a few bucks more are the enemy is silly. The enemies are clearly the millionaires and billionaires who have been pocketing the money for years! If you want to require the minimum wage to apply to those 18+ fine, but don't pretend that the people working at the grocery store are not trying to live off those wages! Nick Adams, Greasy B and tjm 2 1
Al Agnew Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Mitch f said: There are plenty jobs to go around. Everyone I know is hiring. But it seems there are many making a living off of government assistance. Why would they want to work if they make more sitting at home? Employers took a risk and started their business, Covid darn near ruined many businesses. Without these employees no one would have a job anyway. Im fishing this weekend and am not going to respond anymore. How many of those help wanted signs we are seeing everywhere are for the low pay jobs we’ve been talking about? The Covid relief payments, at their height, were $1400 a month. Equivalent to a $9 an hour job, approximately. Want to live on 9 bucks an hour for a year or two? Remember, most other forms of “welfare” cut off after a year. So you would have been living in less than $17,000 a year. Poverty level is $26,500 for a family of four. Assume two work-age adults, both lost their jobs and were eligible. So yeah, they might have been doing a bit better taking the money than both scrambling for poverty level jobs. But the money is running out. Nick Adams 1
trythisonemv Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 All the relief is designed to drive us into the arms of universal basic income and govt babysitting. . . the biggest economic collapse in history is knocking on the door like the big bad wolf and our house of straw is no match... Johnsfolly, Huntingducks117 and Mitch f 3
Jerry Rapp Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 my wife and I were talking today about what things were like two years ago, Oct 2019. Unemployment was super low, minority unemployment was at RECORD lows, the country was energy independent and no one was griping about gas prices, the housing market was doing great, building was going strong.....but now, just two short years later all you hear is doom and gloom. I wonder what changed? Mitch f, snagged in outlet 3, awhuber and 3 others 5 1
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