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1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

We learn so much from the past. 

As far as "artifacts" go it's really hard to say, and impossible to determine what truly is an ancient artifact.  

Every small town in the country has at least a few bored crackheads that, at one period of their life, evaded extreme boredom by pecking on pieces of flint or chert (making points).   And gardeners have crafted makeshift tools out of stone, not because they HAD NOTHING ELSE, but just because they didn't feel like running to town to buy a tool that they'd likely only use once or twice.     It might feel cool to think that someone once used this thing to survive..... but the reality is likely far less romantic.  

Here are a few artifacts that I use in my work daily.  They help me survive!      Maybe 100+ years from now someone will find them and get all mushy about it.   

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           So here are three good examples of Missouri point types I have found. All three are drawn and published in the point types of Missouri book. the first one is a Scottsbluff. This point was pulled out of a cutbank close to the water level. It was in situ that is where it was lost it stayed similar to the ax head the kid in the video pulled out of the bank. All I could see was the side of the point. It was about fifteen feet below the surface and four foot above the stream low level. So many years of floods and topsoil and debris in levels above it. This point is old enough there is a pretty good chance there was still megafauna still roaming around. Mastodon / Mammoth and giant bison types. One of the most perfect points in our collection.  One of the few found here that have fine serrations. The base where it would be hafted is ground and polished to keep from cutting the hafting material probably sinew. Pretty proud of this find. Picture of point on drawing and then side by side,

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                   Second point is a Breckenridge a type similar to the Dalton. It actually was found about thirty yards downstream of the Scottsbluff location, but it had already dropped out of the bank and had made its way into the river gravel layer. One more highwater event and it would have dropped off into the abyss. 

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                            One more and it is a Searcy point. It was found on the same river but way down towards the lake. Another cut bank. Again in Situ but not as deep in the bank. Not as old as the other points so not covered with so much soil. Same bank found a Dalton drill a few years back. 

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      I pays to pay attention as you work up and down the river. Look for anything on the bank that looks out of place. Pay attention to color and shapes. A note to lookers. IT is illegal to take points or other artifacts from public land such of corps of engineer lakes and land. All these points were well below public land. It is just some FYI and I have never run into anyone yet but they were looking for a former guy I used to hang with at times. He was using his jet boat motor to was lake banks. I seen him do this.  Good places to look are where smaller creeks and streams enter larger rivers and streams. High land in the areas that are not prone to flooding. Camps were there and the native peoples liked to be near water. When you see flakes coming out of the bank be alert and keep eyes peeled. There were camps and workshops on site. Days of walking fields are not as good now as no till and light disking does not turn up much. Most of the sites like this you are more likely to find more broken stuff or spent points. Spent points are so worked down they were sometimes discarded when all the usefulness is used. The good points to be found are lost by hunting or a tragic accident by the carrier in places that might surprise you.  Good stuff is still out there to be found. Tens of thousands of years of lost and discarded points. Even though there were less human beings they were there for many more years than modern man.   Don't overlook even real small creeks. They traveled those like a highway venturing out. A good time is now to walk such gravel bottomed creeks right after a big early spring water event flushes the leaves out. 

     Another way to enjoy the outdoors. Happy hunting to you all!

"We have met the enemy and it is us",

Pogo

   If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend"

Lefty Kreh

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BilletHead

    " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting"

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Posted

I personally do not chase Indian Trash Dumps, but I have known some that do.

1 has bought property in SE MO that he has tilled every year to have a hunting session.  Got screwed when they tilled up a skeleton.

Many I pass on the TN river below Pickwick are on the riverbanks after each rise looking for them and scoring bags full of them.  We get out of the boat at times to relieve ourselves, but never find anything.  Erosion caused by the TRA washes out many banks full of deposits, along with civil war stuff.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

Posted
7 minutes ago, jdmidwest said:

Did you ever think that one time, they may have outnumbered us?

What's with all of this "they" and "us" crap ?   Are we not of the same species?

Let's not allow racism into this thread ! 

Where is my best friend Terrierman when I need him?   😅

Posted
17 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

THEIR litter from a thousand years ago !

guy at the University claims it is from ~6000 years ago. So maybe the race before the wooden-indians.

Posted
28 minutes ago, tjm said:

guy at the University claims it is from ~6000 years ago. So maybe the race before the wooden-indians.

Not a chance. Creation of Adam was 6000 years ago and that was a long ways from North America. 

Surely it took a few thousand years of hanky panky to populate Missouri.  

Posted

Well that supports the theory of race, in Mo there were wooden looking amer- injuns and over yonder there was sheepherder hebrews. These rock tool makers in the Ozarks had done passed on when Adam happened. Professors can't wrong and neither can Rabbinites.

nice ads you got there

Posted

This is a fav subject of mine..I have spent a great deal of time researching North America’s ancient past…I’ll share somethings you may find interesting 

 

MONKEYS? what monkeys?

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