Ryan Miloshewski Posted April 13, 2022 Posted April 13, 2022 That's probably it, Bill. I've seen two and they just were not clear at all. And you're right @Seth, it's just a tool! Still have to make em bite and know where fish will be. “To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.”--Aldo Leopold
eyedabassman Posted April 13, 2022 Author Posted April 13, 2022 I have looked at a ton of reviews and videos. I like both but can’t afford both!
Seth Posted April 13, 2022 Posted April 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, eyedabassman said: I have looked at a ton of reviews and videos. I like both but can’t afford both! Just do it like Wheeler did a few years ago....😁 dtrs5kprs, magicwormman, grizwilson and 2 others 3 1 1
fishinwrench Posted April 13, 2022 Posted April 13, 2022 The marketing strategy on these units is SO shrewd 🙄 They have the technology as a whole, but instead of feeding it all to the consumer at once.....they are adding little bits & pieces along with a complete new unit. 100% targeting that percentage of the population that refuses to be left behind for even a single season. The only way to avoid being hosed is to hold off completely, until they have shot their entire wad. This is likely their last Hoo-Rah....so ya know they are going to milk it for all it's worth. Pairing with Spot-lock is coming before long, which will keep you pinpointed on selected targets, even if the target moves...... .And you KNOW FOR SURE that you're gonna want THAT! dtrs5kprs, vernon and cheesemaster 3
abkeenan Posted April 13, 2022 Posted April 13, 2022 Not knocking anyone for buying this type of equipment. No doubt it helps catch more fish and is the latest and greatest out there. But at what point does it stop being fishing and start becoming a video game? I think we spend enough time glued to a phone, computer, TV or tablet screen as it is. Now to do it while fishing? Ugh. Saw plenty of guys using it this past weekend. Make the cast. Stare at screen during the ENTIRE retrieve. Look up for 1 second to recast. Repeat. Guess I’m getting old and crotchety at 40. Wish they’d ban A-Rigs and Live Scope. I have couple year old Garmin units with panoptics on console and bow and don’t really use them much to be honest aside from getting depth and temp. I think reading all of Champs posts over the years has turned me into a bank beater. All that said I think you’d be silly for not going Garmin. They appear to be leaps and bounds ahead of the field in sonar stuff. dtrs5kprs, vernon and DADAKOTA 2 1
eyedabassman Posted April 13, 2022 Author Posted April 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Seth said: Just do it like Wheeler did a few years ago....😁 Ya Wright!🙏😢
dtrs5kprs Posted April 13, 2022 Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, abkeenan said: Not knocking anyone for buying this type of equipment. No doubt it helps catch more fish and is the latest and greatest out there. But at what point does it stop being fishing and start becoming a video game? I think we spend enough time glued to a phone, computer, TV or tablet screen as it is. Now to do it while fishing? Ugh. Saw plenty of guys using it this past weekend. Make the cast. Stare at screen during the ENTIRE retrieve. Look up for 1 second to recast. Repeat. Guess I’m getting old and crotchety at 40. Wish they’d ban A-Rigs and Live Scope. I have couple year old Garmin units with panoptics on console and bow and don’t really use them much to be honest aside from getting depth and temp. I think reading all of Champs posts over the years has turned me into a bank beater. All that said I think you’d be silly for not going Garmin. They appear to be leaps and bounds ahead of the field in sonar stuff. This is one of the things I don't like about the vertical bite. Maybe the only thing, really. Spend an entire day glued to a screen when you should be watching eagles, etc. One of the best days I had two years ago was without a graph running up front at all. Lowrance I had up there choked on a pixel or something, got it working that night. abkeenan, magicwormman and cheesemaster 3
Members fullmoon Posted April 14, 2022 Members Posted April 14, 2022 WOW! I guess I'm wrong but it sounds like we're headed for a motorized version of fishing for trout at the boat show.
Members fullmoon Posted April 14, 2022 Members Posted April 14, 2022 I know we can't stop progress but what happens when everyone is a "Wheeler" ??
Bill Babler Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 Guys, I have mostly been looking at a graph almost my entire fishing career From seeing spoonbill on a flasher to reading a paper graph on the Rock and then 2 D and now livescope. Always wanted to fish where no one else was fishing. I’ll go down a bank if I have to. I’ll throw a SB a Cranker or a Ned if it serves me but frankly. I’d much rather be catching fish away from shore, vertical if possible. I do love the little swim bait, jerk bait and the Dixie Jet. I’m addicted to catching top water fish in 50 plus feet of water near zero structure. I like to drag a big football jig in 30 plus feet of water. I just love to catch them on a float-n-fly, suspending in 15’ over really bottomless water. I like to catch crappie on a spider rig in the early Spring suspended in 10 to 20 feet of water over depth. It’s just I’ve always liked fishing where most people aren’t. Lots are now, but there is a lot more open water than there is shoreline. Going back to the early 1970’s I have the fondest memories of fishing with Rex Grady, a Branson fishing legend. We fished 26’ deep over a total void and caught a 100 plus K’s a day. He told me on the White River Chain One out of a hundred fish live on the shore line or around cover. I think it closer to 1 out of a thousand on the White. The old fishing icon’s of Table Rock gave me the saying the only reason there is a shoreline is to hold the water in. Not the fish. One of my best all time buddies told me if I had to fish the bank on Table Rock I’d starve to death. We all know who that was. We could and can see the refusals on 2D sonar. You really see them on forward facing sonar. Regardless of technology they still have to bite. On the other hand bank fishermen should be happy we’re not beating down a bank in front of you. Fishing technology has been here since I was a boy, I and many others have used it most of our fishing career as it continues to open up avenues of our passion in this wonderful sport. Good Luck out there. DavidB, m&m, nomolites and 2 others 3 2 http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
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