Spinning reel fishing line

[bobby b.]

I know that this subject has been addressed many times and I have gone back and reviewed the old threads but here goes again.

I am not satisfied with the line I have on my spinning reels.  Baitcaster are not an issue.  I've used Invisz for some time but am tired of the curls and having to drag the line behind the boat to straighten it out and in cold water it is even worst.  I have tried some braids like Power Pro and am not a fan of the dye coming off. 

I recently landed on Berkley Nanofil and thought this was the answer.  I like the white color because I can see it but feel like I need a floro leader.  Although I recall Bo saying that leaders are not needed with braid.  For me tying on a leader is a pain but more so it seems to break at the leader just below the knot.  At times I don't use a leader with the green Nanofil but note that it frays some near the lure when dragging a Ned etc.

I'm thinking now about Suffix 832 in a color called Ghost.

So I am looking for the best braid or braid like line (not mono or carbon) with maximum casting distance on a decent 2500/3000 series reel to throw 1/16 - 3/16 oz Neds and the like.  What brand, line weight, and color and what knot if you use a leader?

Bobby

[dtrs5kprs]

6 minutes ago, bobby b. said:

I know that this subject has been addressed many times and I have gone back and reviewed the old threads but here goes again.

I am not satisfied with the line I have on my spinning reels.  Baitcaster are not an issue.  I've used Invisz for some time but am tired of the curls and having to drag the line behind the boat to straighten it out and in cold water it is even worst.  I have tried some braids like Power Pro and am not a fan of the dye coming off. 

I recently landed on Berkley Nanofil and thought this was the answer.  I like the white color because I can see it but feel like I need a floro leader.  Although I recall Bo saying that leaders are not needed with braid.  For me tying on a leader is a pain but more so it seems to break at the leader just below the knot.  At times I don't use a leader with the green Nanofil but note that it frays some near the lure when dragging a Ned etc.

I'm thinking now about Suffix 832 in a color called Ghost.

So I am looking for the best braid or braid like line (not mono or carbon) with maximum casting distance on a decent 2500/3000 series reel to throw 1/16 - 3/16 oz Neds and the like.  What brand, line weight, and color and what knot if you use a leader?

Bobby

Daiwa J Braid x8 in 8# is hard to beat for that use. It's what I run when I am throwing something that needs braid. The 4x is a 4 carrier line, and is rougher, more of a flip and frog line. They have a new one out Grand, also an 8 carrier, but I didn't like it enough to spool any yet. It's slick and stiffer than the 8x regular. Several colors available.

That said, your trouble with FC might be due to spool size. 2500s are too small to handle it well, as are the new Daiwa LT in the 3000, or the Lew's in 3000ish. The Daiwa Black Gold and Eliminators still use the old big 3000 spools, and the Lew's 35 (saltwater) and 40 are ok for it. It also needs lots of line conditioner, as does the braid, really.

Braid remains a mess in wind, and it has some other quirks. It's not the almighty twirly reel solution folks make it out to be.

[Quillback]

I have gone to braid/leader on my spinning setups, except for tossing moving baits.  I like Seaguar Smackdown.  It's just right for tying braid to leader knots in that is not too stiff or too supple and works well for me - but that is a personal preference, may not work for you.  I get the high viz version, it holds the color well, it will fade over time, but it hasn't gotten white after a day of use like some of the other brands I have tried.  It's not cheap, $30 a spool, but it lasts forever.

Bo could make straight braid work, I have tried it, I caught fish, but it would always get frayed, fairly quickly, and on about hookset 3 or 4, would just break, so I stick with a leader.  I've tied so many braid to leader knots that it is not a big deal to tie one.  I think the knot I use is the Alberto knot, 10 wraps one way, than back over the 10 wraps with 4 or 5 wraps.  

A lot of people like Suffix 832, certainly worth a shot.

FWIW, I use 15 lb. braid and 10 lb. leader for finesse stuff.  Distance is not an issue.

[vernon]

I also used Invisx pretty much exclusively on spinning reels for quite a few years but also got tired of the loops and curls not to mention the expense and was looking for an alternative.  Yo-Zuri hybrid seemed like a decent choice for a while and I also tried the Maxima that Mr. Babler loves but did not get along with it at all.  At the recommendation of RPS I tried a braid called Finatic and liked it enough to convert all my spinning tackle and I'm a guy that's been a braid hater since the original Spiderwire.

In my opinion it handles and performs better than any braid that I've ever used and doesn't lose its color.  This will be the third year for the same line on at least three reels and it looks just like the day I put it on.  It's never dug into the spool or come flying off in globs like some braids or most mono or fluro nor has it ever wrapped around a guide.  It has also never gotten frayed or that fuzzy look that every other braid I've tried does.

I have never used a leader in my life and needing to would be a dealbreaker for me but this stuff ties directly to the lure with no problem.  I really like it for Ned fishing and tiny crappie jigs.  

I have even spooled it on a couple of bait casters for jig and other bottom bumping stuff and it works great.

If I have a complaint about the stuff at all it would be that it's kinda hard to see but certainly no harder than Invisx that's for sure.

It comes in a blue/black or green/black color and I really haven't found one to be better than the other.

It ain't cheap but if it lasts three or more seasons I'm saving a ton of money compared what I was spending on Invisx and having to respool every couple of days.

I use the 10 lb. version which is .006 diameter.

I'm sure RPS could fill in the blanks as to whatever details I failed to mention.

 

 

[Ham]

I tried Invis X on 6 lb on a 3000 Daiwa Tatula LT because Super Dave loved it. I hate it. Nope. I’m freaking done with that idea.

Spro finesse braid is good. Pricey. I’m using the 10 lb.

Daiwa J Braid 8 strand is Good. I’m using the 6 lb.

Power Pro V2 is Nice. I’m about to spool up 10 on a 2000 Size Daiwa BG.

the fish might not need you to use a leader, but I need the leader. It’s good to have a weak link to break when you need it. It saves you the pricey braid on re-ties. 
I really don’t have issues on the braid/leader connection. Alberto or Uni/Uni or triple turn surgeons knot

[dtrs5kprs]

8 minutes ago, Ham said:

I tried Invis X on 6 lb on a 3000 Daiwa Tatula LT because Super Dave loved it. I hate it. Nope. I’m freaking done with that idea.

Spro finesse braid is good. Pricey. I’m using the 10 lb.

Daiwa J Braid 8 strand is Good. I’m using the 6 lb.

Power Pro V2 is Nice. I’m about to spool up 10 on a 2000 Size Daiwa BG.

the fish might not need you to use a leader, but I need the leader. It’s good to have a weak link to break when you need it. It saves you the pricey braid on re-ties. 
I really don’t have issues on the braid/leader connection. Alberto or Uni/Uni or triple turn surgeons knot

The 3000 LT spool size is different than the old 3000s. They darn near wrecked them.

In an LT you need to go to the 4000. Weight is about the same as the old 3000s, similar spool size, still a little smaller.

[dtrs5kprs]

FWIW, I'm leaving tomorrow, and have close to 2500yds of 6# Red Label and Invizx spooled. 

Honestly never have an issue with the floobies on large spool reels.

[Dutch]

Bobby I have tried braid, braid/fluorocarbon and monofilament leaders and straight fluorocarbon.  I use Seaguar red label and love it in 12 and 15# test.  It’s not bad in 8 and 10# test but I gave up on it in 6#.  It would be fine for a while then all of a sudden it would be useless and break like sewing thread.  That chapped me as I have 5 setups spooled for Ned.

Upon the advice of a good fisherman I bought Yozuri hybrid in 6# and have not looked back.  I use it on Shimano spinning reels in sizes 1000 and 2000 and Shimano X70 bait casting without issue.  It has been on since late last summer and doesn’t need to be changed yet.

[Fishrman]

I've started using Yozuri braid with Yozuri fc leader.  I use 15lb braid and 8lb leader.   I like their stuff.   Very inexpensive and their fc is super good in my opinion.

[grizwilson]

I use white power pro 8-1 with an Alberto connect mono 6# like @Ham like the weak link. But am thinking of trying the Dawia and yozori after reading this thread.