Ryan Miloshewski
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3 hours ago, BilletHead said:
From so much spring and early summer water of overabundance. Now in Vernon county back into a drought situation. If you lit a match and dropped it in the yard it would burn us out and the surrounding area. Irrigation is running on everyone that has it to water beanfields. Ponds and lakes are being pumped dry.
Yep. It's crazy how fast things dry up.
I have faith we'll get a good, October rain, though.
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I walked a lot and drove around the entirety of Grand Pass yesterday. Only two pools with water and I did not see a single teal.
Things are slim in Missouri right now.
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Little late this year but figured I’d start it on the teal opener! Pretty slow this morning. Buddy and I hunted Kansas and we saw ~40 birds. No real big wads. Shot six, found four. Got hot fast so we left around 9am. Other buddies reported the same situation, or no birds at all.
Sure felt good to get after waterfowl again. Front mid-week so we should get some new birds for the last weekend.
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13 minutes ago, jimithyashford said:
Hey thanks, that's super helpful, if I can prod a bit more.
1- Gotcha, that is helpful thank you!
2- Hey the uber thing is a great idea. Thanks!3- This is spin casting right? Or are you talking about like a steady slow stripping in off a fly cast?
You bet! Any time. And you are correct, spin fishing. Fly fishing you'll want to be nymphing right on the bottom. Stripping anything you can vary the depth and location. A jig, though, works best when it's near the bottom. Really, as long as they can see it, you're fine.
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22 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:
Do these hoppers come with a boat ride and personal instruction?
I'd absolutely be more than happy to do that....next year haha. Teal season opens up this Saturday and I will be in the throes of waterfowl and deer hunting until February 1st. Phil is good at it, though--he could probably take you!
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1 minute ago, jimithyashford said:
1- I've heard a lot of folks talk about wade fishing the trophy section and fly fishing it. But at least the one time I went out there, it looked way too deep for that. The Dam was off, so I assume what I was looking at was low water, but even so, the current seemed pretty strong and at least from my view from the lot, it looked like it got chest deep or higher not very far out, which with that kind of current you can't really wade. So how do you wade fish the trophy section? Or do you not really and I just misunderstood?
2- Since I am in a kayak, I have to paddle back to where ever I put in. On most lakes that's not an issue, but here, well as many point out, the upper portion is more like a river really. Around what point would you say the flow slows down enough that a person could kayak upstream back to their put in without killing themselves? At least up near the dam, that current looked way too strong for that.
3- I have only ever fished small water for trout. Get pretty close, within I dunno, 30 or 40 feet of the fish and either spincast something like a rooster tail or fly fish smaller lighter things. My understanding is that further down Taneycomo, once you get past the trophy section, you really can't fish like that, you have to fish more like you'd fish for catfish and get your bait way down to the bottom and let it sit. Is my understanding right? The trout like to hang out in the depths of the channels where the cold water is? Or are they up shallow around structure more like a smallmouth?
4- While I am trying to learn trout fishing, I also like to bass fish, I assume the bass fishing is less good up where the water is cold and gets better once you get down below a couple of the major creeks that warm the water up a bit? Like I would have thought below bull creek at rockaway would be good bass water, and maybe it is, I didn't fish it very long, but at least the afternoon I was out there it didn't seem very active.
5- Any other general tips? Just regarding methods and general lay of the lake, not asking for your secret spots or anything.
Thanks!
1: You can wade far enough out to catch fish and get across from outlet two down fairly easily. I am guessing they were running one unit or so when you were there. Scuds, midges, megaworms all work under an indicator up there.
2: Way down lake. From TRD to the Landing, with generation, I would not want to have to paddle back. If you can shuttle, put in at the ramp by the dam and take out at Cooper Creek or the Landing ramp. If you can't find someone to shuttle you, one thing you could do is take a chain and lock with you on the kayak. Float down to either of those ramps, lock up your rig, and call an Uber to your put in point.
3: They feed shallow, deep, on top--everywhere. Browns will relate to structure more than rainbows. With generation, they will be tight to the bank and on the very bottom. You can get them to eat all throughout the water column. Use a marabou jig and adjust the size based on water depth. You will catch fish. Rooster tails, cleos, Lil' Jakes, etc. all work with just a cast and steady retrieve. The biggest thing is using the right size line and reading the water. In deeper water, find a seam or eddy and there will be fish eating in it. In the trophy area, they will be in the same areas, as well as in 1-2 ft of water eating midges, scuds, sculpins and anything they can find.
4: There are no bass in Taneycomo. That's a myth and outright lie
5: Hire a guide for 2-4 hours if you can. First thing I do when fishing a new body of water is hire a guide. It cuts down the learning curve substantially. If not, stop into Anglers Outfitters, River Run, or Lilleys' Landing. Ask questions. The devil is in the details. And most folks are more than willing to help you out.
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I commented on Travis' post but figured I'd start a new one. Me, John and my grandpa Bob stayed at Phil's Friday-Monday and fished a few hours each day. The weather was amazing and overall was just a great trip. It's the first time my grandpa, who will be 83 in November, has been able to get down in a couple years. He was feeling poor and has an older vehicle. He's been drinking beet juice and taking magnesium and says it's made a major difference in his soreness, energy and overall health. Figured I'd share that for the chronologically gifted here. So, Friday morning I drove to his house in St. Louis and we headed down to Taneycomo.
John and I fished for an hour Friday evening as a front was moving in. I had five fish rise on the hopper I've been tying, but they either missed or refused it at the last second. Some nice fish, too. John caught five on a 110+1 jerkbait, biggest being a 19.5" rainbow. After about 25 min of fishing, it all went kaput. We were just a little late with the timing of the front I figure.
Saturday morning we fished 8-10am from Lookout to the Narrows. We caught them on 1/25-ounce black and sculpin/ginger jigs. The lighter the jig, the better. They really wanted a slow fall. Sun got high so we went in and I started making a dark roux for venison sauce piquante. It turned out amazing. My grandpa said it was the best deer dish he's ever had. And @gotmuddy I didn't forget the garlic!
Saturday evening it was just bad fishing for us. That's just the way it goes at times. We caught two on a jig and decided to call it. We ate dinner and watched the Mizzou beating KU highlights.
Sunday morning I took a little jaunt to the White to fish with my buddy Stephen Balogh, who owns part of the White River Trout Club. We threw big psycho ants and landed six fish in a few hours. Nothing big, but hopper eats, no matter the species or size, are the best!
Sunday evening was the best fishing by far. We crushed them on 1/8-ounce black and sculpin/black jigs. There were only two units running but they seemed to want a faster fall. And color mattered big time. Had to have black in it. John threw a 110+1 jerkbait as it got later and had four fish on that were 20+ inches, but for some reason they all came off as I was about to net them. They were crushing it, he said. I didn't catch a single fish on a jerkbait this trip. First time in a long time.
Now to the fun part. I love to throw hoppers for trout. I have been tying one that takes after the Hippie Stomper. I changed three materials/details about it and it seems to be the best one I've thrown on Taneycomo. Black/green and Black/purple have been the ticket. With John and my grandpa in the boat, I didn't do it a ton, but did a few drifts Sunday evening and had four eats. One was a hook-jawed 21-inch male who crushed it about 20-ft off the bank in a seam. With the water moving, all I could see was his big, white mouth coming up from the depths. Sucked it in, waited 3 seconds, and let him have it. Such an epic eat. Eats like that make me so happy I could just put the rod down and be happy for the evening.
Here's how I rig/fish the hopper for anybody wondering.
-6 ft of 2x to a tippet ring, then 12-14" of 3x to the fly. The tippet ring prevents the hopper from spinning, and the shorter the tippet from fly line to fly is paramount. You could easily use 8-lb and 6-lb test line as well if you're not into the tippet deal. I generally don't like tippet rings, but it sure helps throwing a hopper.
-Fish it with water off and on. Shade is your friend. With the water off, point your nose downstream and use your trolling motor to cover water. Water running, nose upstream and control your position. I stay 30-40-feet off the bank. Always cast forward (downstream) so you have a longer, effective drift.
-I gink it once on a drift, as I use Widow's Web for the wing and it can hold water. If it starts to sit too low, just rip a few false casts to dry it out. Hit the banks--and I mean 1-footor less from the bank. But do not neglect seams and structure off the bank (see above). Cast forward, mend, and let it ride for 10-15 sec. If I don't get an eat, I skate it a bit. Just twitch your rod tip or pull on your slack fly line to do this. Still nothing? Pick up and fire at your next spot. It's fast and furious. You are going to get bit quickly 99% of the time. Don't focus on working the hopper longer than 20-30 seconds per cast.
-Make sure your loop is tight on your cast, too. You will need to bang the hopper under limbs and be as accurate as possible. A tighter loop gets you both. A tip--put your thumb on top of the handle, push down, and stop your cast at 12 o'clock. Using a heavier line and slower rod also helps. I learned both of these from Stephen over the years. This is not throwing a size 18 sulphur, which is a completely different game.
-If it starts sinking, it's not the end of the world. I have had them eat it as it sinks and drags below the surface. Movement is not a bad thing at ALL with hoppers. In fact, it often triggers the eat.
Hoppers are not something a lot of folks do on Taneycomo, but it's productive and fun as can be. Hopefully that helps if you want to give it a try! Phil has two dozen of my hoppers at his shop if you're down and want to try it. If you have any questions, shoot me a message.
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Jeff, I blame you for the incoming 90s this week. You jinxed us! Would have loved to have this weather for teal opener..
- Quillback and BilletHead
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My grandpa and cousin were down this weekend as well. Surprised we didn't see you out there!
We had four fish hooked over 20" on jerkbaits, all came unbuttoned at the boat, and all but one was a rainbow. Jigs produced the most fish for us as well. Lots of smaller fish, as you said. The plethora of 16-18-inch fatties are not as abundant. Figure it's the ecosystem leveling itself out. I threw a hopper when I could and caught seven total, biggest one being 21-inches. Epic eat in the middle of a seam 20-ft off the bank. Lots of misses/refusals by the trout on the hopper. But, it was fun. And the weather was magnificent.
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Didn't do as well as you all, but I totaled 7 after two days. Enough to make my favorite dish, peppered dove. That will be dinner and lunch tomorrow. Sure is a great feeling being able to chase flying things again, ain't it? It's like the world resets on 9/1 every year. I love it.
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Agree with Pete. Honestly, the only thing you need for any trout waters in the country is a marabou jig. Get a variety of sizes so you can adjust with water depth and flow. Start there and then expand your techniques.
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I got the exact same gun. My grandpa bought them from an old gentleman in St. Louis City while working a job in the 1970s. It's not pristine, but it's close. Also have an 1875 model. They're .32-20 caliber.
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Nice! Love squirrel hunting and eating them. I'm going to do this, this Saturday. Break out the old Marlin .22
- BilletHead and Johnsfolly
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16 minutes ago, gotmuddy said:
We stayed in the bunk lodge at Riley's outfitters this weekend and absolutely loved it.
Except for the fear of seeing you naked and Daryk's close-quarters gaseous combat tactics..
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Really looking forward to it. I am not being biased when I say your place (and the people) is the best fishing resort I have ever been to in the country. I find myself wanting other places to have the same feel, care, and facilities as yours.
And you all building the shop will be awesome. Darin filled me in on the plans and it sure will be nice! Not having a fly shop in KC anymore worth a darn is really a bummer. Monday Darin ordered some stuff I will certainly buy, and you all get it to me within three days almost every time. That's huge.
- slabseeker, trythisonemv and dpitt
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lt was so hot smallie fishing Ely and I decided to take a break in the river.
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Came down with three of my buddies to fish for an early birthday trip. We fished early, mid-day, and at night and did well at all times. Best was at night for sure with small streamers, jigs and jerkbaits. Dave and I stayed until this morning and fished a couple hours last night in one of Phil's boats and did well stripping streamers. Ely and I snuck away Saturday afternoon to fish with Ryan Walker for smallies. It was hot as can be all weekend, but the fish were biting for us. Here are some of the better pics. Ely caught the 20-inch brown on a megaworm and it was one of the prettier ones I've seen in a while--and it was thick!. Tanner caught the 20-inch rainbow at night on a 1/16-ounce Lilleys' jig. Fun times!
- trythisonemv, Terrierman, Quillback and 5 others
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I have a very vehement dislike of Sedalia, so I will forever boycott the MO State Fair. I have to drive through that hellhole every time I go deer hunting. And it is just a nightmare every time. Always something to make me mad.
My buddy Shags at 96.7 mad the entire city very angry when he said on air "people from Sedalia vacation in Lebanon."
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Walt Fulps has a great book "Trout are Stupid..and other uncomfortable truths" and he goes into it fairly well. I have it. I can lend it to you in a couple weeks. I know some, but @dpitt's son is an entomology PhD so I think he can probably get something digestible from him
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The old trailer I stay in where I turkey and deer hunt has a resident rat snake. He is about 5-feet long. He lives in the trailer at times, but I don't mind. The mouse problem greatly diminishes when he's around. I stopped putting out poison once I noticed it frequenting the trailer. I'd say he/she is about as effective as the poison. I see it sunbathing in the spring right outside on the gravel. I have one of its sheds hung up in the trailer.
Fished the Eleven Point in June with my buddy Dave. We hiked in to where we wanted to fish. We got to one of the "marshy" areas and started the trek to the river. Dave went first. He got into some high weeds and kept going. I saw the weeds move, and waited. Out came a 3-foot cottonmouth. I told Dave "hey come look at what you just stepped over." I watched it for a while, as it was very intent on not being around us. It got into a low water area and just sat there, waiting for us to leave.
I don't mind snakes, though. I did relocation, surgery and tracking of Timber Rattlesnakes in college. Have an internationally published article because of it. That was fun!
- BilletHead, steve l, nomolites and 1 other
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36 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:
Just out of curiosity......How often do the guide vessels on Taney get pulled up on, and the passengers licenses get checked ?
Not often, I'd guess. 2020-2023 when I could work fully remote I fished Taney a ton. Only year I ever got checked was in 2022, and it happened twice. They were checking every boat fishing. 2020, 2021, and 2023? Never saw an agent on the water. And in my 20 or so days fishing it last year I never saw one either. And none this year. Surprised, because people are fed up and calling constantly.
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Clayton Elisaen is overall really good on TR. Not sure if he fishes the dam area but I'd message him. Red's Guide Service