What it's like to be retired during Covid

[moguy1973]

16 hours ago, JestersHK said:

 

My nephews a paramedic, and his wife's a surgical transplant nurse who does organ donor harvesting.  What I can say is that they both have seen and tried reporting an alarming number of deaths due to covid on death certificates that should not be.  Get hit by a car - died of covid, fell off a cliff - died of covid, succumbed to cancer - died of covid.  There take on it is that hospitals get their covid kick back money so there is money to be made here in marking a death as covid...

 

 

They are utterly and completely wrong on this.  Hospitals make way way way more money on elective surgeries they are not able to do right now because of this pandemic.  They get a fraction, if any at all from people contracting COVID.  My wife is an attorney for one of the biggest hospitals in St Louis and what you said above cannot be farther from the truth.

[gotmuddy]

I am just an ignorant country person, but since January I have been to Louisiana, Mississippi twice, Texas three times, and go to cloud 9 ranch almost every weekend and have experienced zero issues.  Every place I have been too has had lax or non existent mask requirements, including cloud 9 which has none.  We have members from as far away as California and last weekend there was easily 3500 people there 😮

Whats all this mean?  Two things.  One is in big cities have chosen to live bunched up and are now learning the errors of their ways.  "Social distancing" is not a new idea.  Just watch people standing in line in a city vs country, we value our personal space.  The other is I refuse to let the government use fear to control me in anything.

I am anxiously waiting for a call to head to biloxi and go tuna fishing, and we are renting a house in texas for a week between christmas and new years.

Life is great, and you better enjoy all of it you can now because nothing is guaranteed.

[Flysmallie]

People blindly follow religion and then say if they were wrong then no harm was done. 
 

But when asked to follow science they decide to blindly follow the for profit politicians instead. 
 

Makes perfect sense to me. 

[Mitch f]

13 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

 

But when asked to follow science they decide to blindly follow the for profit politicians instead. 
 

Makes perfect sense to me. 

Yea right, until the transgender issue pops up, then the Leftists throw science out the window. “Yes, men can have periods!”

[snagged in outlet 3]

30 minutes ago, gotmuddy said:

I am just an ignorant country person, but

The others might think this about you but not me👍

[JestersHK]

2 hours ago, moguy1973 said:

They are utterly and completely wrong on this.  Hospitals make way way way more money on elective surgeries they are not able to do right now because of this pandemic.  They get a fraction, if any at all from people contracting COVID.  My wife is an attorney for one of the biggest hospitals in St Louis and what you said above cannot be farther from the truth.

So if they are not getting a kick back then why are they marking deaths as covid when they are not?  I believe in greed as the driver to profit from this, but maybe they are marking them just to pad numbers? 

Maybe just maybe... it could go on and on, and yes I understand elective surgeries are the money makers, but in this case when you're dead you'll likely not be getting cut on anymore.  Unless they are charging cadavers for surgery... man let's not give them any ideas. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

15 minutes ago, JestersHK said:

So if they are not getting a kick back then why are they marking deaths as covid when they are not?  I believe in greed as the driver to profit from this, but maybe they are marking them just to pad numbers? 

Maybe just maybe... it could go on and on, and yes I understand elective surgeries are the money makers, but in this case when you're dead you'll likely not be getting cut on anymore.  Unless they are charging cadavers for surgery... man let's not give them any ideas. 

Maybe they are claiming Covid as soon as the patient arrives and have to not only treat for the other ailments but also Covid.  That would seem ok too.  Since they are treating it.  

[Daryk Campbell Sr]

18 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I believe there is over reporting 

On everything.  The news gets one thing, and you would believe it is going to change the world in a negative way.   Any one thing.  "Orange crops are twice the expected yield, nowhere to send the abundance of oranges.  Seeds will overtake the sewage system, and the rinds take 8 months to decompose.  Protect yourself, find out how at 10" 

[Johnsfolly]

15 minutes ago, Daryk Campbell Sr said:

On everything.  The news gets one thing, and you would believe it is going to change the world in a negative way.   Any one thing.  "Orange crops are twice the expected yield, nowhere to send the abundance of oranges.  Seeds will overtake the sewage system, and the rinds take 8 months to decompose.  Protect yourself, find out how at 10" 

I blame the 24/7 news cycle for the overreporting of everything.

[Al Agnew]

11 hours ago, JestersHK said:

Some valid points there Al.  While I can certainly see your points I must ask where was the call for mask with sars and h1n1? Why don't we wear mask to prevent tuberculosis, or during the flu season?  I'd guess half the folks out there wearing masks don't even know the difference between a n95 versus a cloth mask versus a respirator... What is the driving point here besides the numbers which may or may not be fully or accurately represented?  Why do we still not understand more on this virus,  it's transmission rates,  it's ability to kill some while sparing others?  

Can you honestly say you put 100% blind faith in what our government, for profit hospitals, and media are telling you to be true in regards to covid? 

Based off my experience with covid and generally every other topic those 3 groups touch there's no way I can just blindly follow... again not a call out and you're fully within your rights to do what you want and take risks as you see fit.   

I don't think it always has to be liberal vs conservative either.  I don't think of myself as macho for fishing without my mask, nor do I feel emasculated by wearing a mask to work... I do understand how these points have been manipulated by certain parties and quite frankly the behavior on both sides disgusts me. 

Stay safe out there in God's country.  I do think isolation will definitely help in regards to limiting your chances of exposure and I truly wish you well.

SARS and H1N1 never got the level where extraordinary measures had to be taken, partly because of the response to them, partly because they ended up no more deadly than the flu.  And that's the same answer to the flu...it simply hasn't been deadly enough (since the 1918 flu).  No, we don't completely understand this virus.  It continues to mystify the scientific and medical establishment.  Is that a reason not to take as many precautions as possible?

I don't put all my faith in the government...especially since the government has been giving out mixed messages from the beginning.  Fauci would stand up at a podium and say one thing, and then Trump would get up right afterwards and say something completely different.  Which one are you to believe?  Hint...one has a vested interest in convincing voters that everything is great under his watch.  So I read the science, I don't listen to the government.

And again, I can take risks as I see fit, but I can't control what risks others take with MY health.  I don't care in the least what risks they take with their health, that's their business.  But when what they are doing risks the health of myself and my loved ones, that's a whole different story.  And please don't say, as Wrench has repeatedly, that all I need to do is stay home.  Why should the selfishness of some people force others to either take real risks or not be able to live their lives?  Should it be one person's choice to drive 70 mph down residential streets while everybody who thinks that is unsafe shouldn't drive on those streets?