Fast Food Woes

[Devan S.]

Wonder how much of it was COVID induced layoffs/stipulations pulling older workers out of the workforce and the younger ones moving up leaving gaps. 

Wonder how many of the younger women have decided their kids is more important that a $10/hr job(Safety and/or education)

Wonder how many workers are getting the boot because they quarantine rules due to family or kids. 

Wonder how many people worked in food service and because they got the boot decided they wanted out of that industry and that was the push to get them out. 

Wonder how many people became sick of companies that constantly crap on them and looked and found work elsewhere. 

Wonder how many people in the work force have been removed due to death.

Everywhere I turn I see companies talking about "record" years. Wonder how much the shortage is due to increased demand for employees. Will those people be kept once the demand surge is over?

Have had 2 people tell me the problem is the longshoreman and truck drivers are all sitting at home on welfare and that's causing the port congestion/delays. Does the welfare system now cover a 50-100k/year job?

[snagged in outlet 3]

It’s a bidding war for employees here in St charles county.   We implemented key employee pay rates a few years ago and still can’t keep good workers.  If you hear someone complaining they can’t earn enough money then you are looking at an idiot.  
Don’t even mention trucking.  Massive shortage in drivers and now you can’t get new trucks.  

[DADAKOTA]

Pride in doing a good job and being responsible is on the employee.  Kids today frequently call in and say I don't feel like working today and companies let them get away with it as they can't hire enough people.

[Gavin]

It is capitalism at its finest! The tables have turned. Crappy employers will have to up their game, or go out of business.

[Mitch f]

8 minutes ago, Gavin said:

It is capitalism at its finest! The tables have turned. Crappy employers will have to up their game, or go out of business.

With inflation becoming so high and our taxes increasing, everyone needs to make more money. Even excellent employers are having issues finding people. They can sit at home and make darn near the same money. Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0. 

[Johnsfolly]

26 minutes ago, Mitch f said:

They can sit at home and make darn near the same money. Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0. 

 

[moguy1973]

5 hours ago, Devan S. said:

Wonder how much of it was COVID induced layoffs/stipulations pulling older workers out of the workforce and the younger ones moving up leaving gaps. 

Wonder how many of the younger women have decided their kids is more important that a $10/hr job(Safety and/or education)

Wonder how many workers are getting the boot because they quarantine rules due to family or kids. 

Wonder how many people worked in food service and because they got the boot decided they wanted out of that industry and that was the push to get them out. 

Wonder how many people became sick of companies that constantly crap on them and looked and found work elsewhere. 

Wonder how many people in the work force have been removed due to death.

Everywhere I turn I see companies talking about "record" years. Wonder how much the shortage is due to increased demand for employees. Will those people be kept once the demand surge is over?

Have had 2 people tell me the problem is the longshoreman and truck drivers are all sitting at home on welfare and that's causing the port congestion/delays. Does the welfare system now cover a 50-100k/year job?

I think it's still a lot to do with COVID and restrictions and such.  Some parents can't work because their schools aren't back to in person learning in some places. They have to stay at home with their kids and do remote learning with them.  Some day cares didn't re-open, so those parents can't work because they have to be at home with their babies and toddlers.  There's a lot of other things too.  People were laid off or put on furloughed last year, and then decided the hand outs were enough to live on and didn't feel the need to go back to work.  You'd think that this day and age people would want to get back to work.  It just befuddles me that people are just up and quitting their jobs right now for no good reason and without having a new job lined up.

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, Gavin said:

It is capitalism at its finest! The tables have turned. Crappy employers will have to up their game, or go out of business.

Good employers can't get workers either.  Our company has always paid 100% of health insurance, we give disability and life insurance too.  401K and the employees own the company.  We've hired people back that left for higher hourly wage after they found out what we offer as a total package. 

[moguy1973]

17 hours ago, Mitch f said:

Fast food has been getting worse in the last year, I mean in a big way. The service is off the charts in a bad way. Popeyes closed after 6 pm the other day. The welfare system isn’t helping. No one wants to work anymore. What has America come to?? I feel for my kids. 

I think going back to Mitch's original post on this  COVID or not, fast food was heading this way when workers began demanding higher pay, as if jobs like that were meant to be careers.  People flipping burgers shouldn't be making $15/hr when skilled workers like EMTs driving ambulances only make $17-18/hr.  You saw owners reaction to that by putting in the "order your own food" kiosks in places like McDonalds and Taco Bell and cutting the amount of workers standing behind the counter waiting for customers to walk up.  Those kiosks work for pretty cheap after they are paid off.  I think those kiosks are great, you can order it like you want.  My big beef about the whole thing is I went to McDonalds the other day to get my kids some nugget happy meals and the drive through line was about 20 cars deep and out onto the street in front of the restaurant.  So I pulled in so I could park and go inside, and wouldn't you know it, there was a sign on the door saying the lobby was closed due to short staffing.  Problem is I could see they had 4 of the kiosks inside.  So instead of opening the lobby so some people could go in to place their orders instead of sitting in their cars they decided they would just bog down the drive through line.  Luckily the staff that had decided to come in were rocking it and I had my happy meals in a relatively fast time with respect to how many cars were in line.

[Devan S.]

I really think were going to see many industries begin to trim things we once took for granted. 

Walmart use to be open 24 hours. Locally it no longer is, have to wonder how profitable it was to close for 6 or 7 hours multiple that by the number of stores. Certainly easy to claim "trouble finding employees" but still turn it into a net profit +. 

Probably very similar with closed lobbies at FF.