OUR CHILDREN

[DADAKOTA]

How many of these school shootings have occurred at private schools?  Offhand I can't recall one.  A lot of private schools are are religion based.  Maybe taking God out of the class room wasn't such a good idea.  Seems more people and families used to make religion a higher priority.  Don't recall having these shootings when I graduated in 78.  Many times we had guns  poles in our cars on Friday and leave for the outdoors right after school.  Never concerned someone was going to shoot up the place.  It is hard for kids to learn compassion, empathy, and respect when all they do is type into their phone and send things out on social media.  Seeing how your comments hurts someones feelings requires you to be looking at them when you speak.  Kids don't converse in person.  Much harder to keep track of their conversations today than when you had to use the house phone.

[fishinwrench]

It's just the way our society works.  We are all controlled with guns.  The punishment for continued resistance of the system, is to be shot, right?     

Anytime there's a conflict over who's system gets adherence to.....we have a war.

[tho1mas]

Did any of you cut your own switch? 

 I did! Didn't like it one bit but I haven't been in jail yet. Guess they just don't make good switch trees any more.

[Seth]

I doubt many of these school shooters grew up in a family friendly home and suffered abuse, sexual assault or some other issues while growing up. Getting a swat on the butt was probably the least of their worries. They aren't right in the head for one reason or another. How do you keep guns out of the hands of these types though? It's not like it is hard to acquire a gun via private party in this country.

I honestly have no idea what it will take to remedy these types of issues. People are just freaking nuts these days!

[Smalliebigs]

7 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

       Maybe it is because parents cannot give a kid a belt across the rear? I remember getting one and just thinking of getting it was worse then the punishment. It did not even have to be a hard spanking.   Spare the rod spoil the child.    I turned out Ok and BilletHead Jr. did too and he got spanked a few times . Neither one of us were abused. Did any of you cut your own switch?  I am not talking a beating either or condoning it for anyone,

  BilletHead

My Grandma did down in Bonne Terre. She once beat the piss out of one of my buddies who was spending the weekend at my Grandparents. My Mom would administer some serious beatdowns on me. I am thankful for them. Thinking back I deserved worse.

I was also bullied by older kids in Middle school pretty bad. They were scaring the craw out of me and it was messing with me. I finally had enough and confronted the ring leader and scheduled a fight after school behind the old Majik Market in Kirkwood. I was mortified thru out the day thinking about my demise coming after school. When we exchanged blows behind the store in front some 30 other kids I realized this older dork was mortified of blood and real punching. He turtled up on the ground after we exchanged about 6 punches but, I caught him really good on his lip which completely split him open and he was bleeding all over the place. The older dorks never screwed with me again....I never once thought about bringing a gun to school and shooting anyone. I think Jim is right these kids are being coddled and medicated....they never are allowed to solve disputes.

Guns have always been available.

We have a problem with how we are raising our kids and allowing fringe lunatics to attend public school when they should be in a ward. We as a society are fostering this....guns have always been around....we have a problem with how are families interact and how are kids are being raised. I won't rip on the younger generation because we as a society are responsible for this weird behavior. I don't blame inanimate objects....I'm also worried we are too cheap as a society to deal with our obvious psyc problems in this country brought on in most cases by horrible households. The drugs that they put these kids on have rediculous side effects in certain brains....it's spooky out there.

[moguy1973]

27 minutes ago, Seth said:

I honestly have no idea what it will take to remedy these types of issues. People are just freaking nuts these days!

There isn't a solution.  This country is in far too deep already.  It's too easy for the bad guy who already doesn't follow the rules to obtain whatever weapons they desire to carry out these heinous acts solely because there are so many weapons out there to be had.  There will always be that one nut case who slips through the cracks no matter how many mental health laws are on the books.  The Vegas shooter is a prime example.

[ColdWaterFshr]

There is a solution.  Won't be easy.  Won't be liked.  But we need to start somewhere.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[Smalliebigs]

Simply banning guns is not a solution. Sorry but, that is complete BS.

That has worked real well with prohibition and drugs....still plenty of drugs and booze available.

Switzeland encourages a bevie a guns in every household and they don't have gang bangers popping each other every darn day or psycho freaks committing mass murder. 

We as a society are not raising people with respect for life, we have become desensitized to violence here with dweebs sitting behind computers shooting up towns on videos games and gang bangers shooting up inner cities.

For anyone to think if we were to ban guns or bump stocks or AR's that suddenly none of the psychos will stop shooting people is naive as hell and completely ignoring the real problem.

[ColdWaterFshr]

Respectfully disagree.  Switzerland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, and small in population.  You're comparing apples to oranges.

When it is easier to buy an AR-15 and all the ammunition you want  . . . . than it is to register your car, we have a problem.  

There is a reason you cannot purchase rocket launchers.  Is this a violation of your 2nd amendment rights?

Bump-stocks should have been outlawed immediately after Vegas, but our congress is too lazy, and our outrage too weak, the NRA too strong.

Not suggesting banning guns, but we have to tighten our gun laws and come up with some common sense application of these laws.    A 19 year old with all the warning signs this kid had --- shouldn't be allowed to buy a squirt gun.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say this one was preventable.

Carry on with your thoughts and prayers and no attempt at working on a solution.  Thats working well.

 

 

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

Bump-stocks should have been outlawed immediately after Vegas, but our congress is too lazy, and our outrage too weak, the NRA too strong.

strong = wealthy 

Which tells you all you need to know about American politics.