Mo shut down

[Quillback]

3 minutes ago, mixermarkb said:

No reason at all to close ramps, though it wouldn't surprise me if the COE started doing it as well. You would think someone would co-ordinate this though, because the Missouri Department of Conservation is promoting fishing as social distancing, and has even suspended the need for fishing permits. 

One of the annoying things about this whole outbreak is that every government organization, federal state, county and city are issuing their own guidelines and rules.  And it's a daily thing, doesn't seem to be any long range planning or thinking going on, just a lot of day to day reaction to the latest news or appeasing the media who are asking the same questions over and over again at the seemingly endless news conferences being held at every level.  

Govt. needs to be working on making sure food gets to grocery stores, utilities still function, health care supplies are getting to where they need to be and so on, rather than closing boat ramps.  

My latest annoyance is this recommendation at the national level that people should wear face masks - well where the bleep are you going to get EFFECIVE face masks?  

And I do take this whole thing seriously, I'm not a naysayer.

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, mixermarkb said:

I still plan on making solo trips to the lake, avoiding humans, bringing my own food and drink, and paying for fuel at the pump. I'm taking the stay at home order seriously, but I don't see how fishing a couple times in the next few weeks isn't isolation. I can do it without interacting with another human all day. As a matter of fact, I kinda prefer it that way anyhow...

I did it the last two days.  Never got within 50 yards of anyone.  Except the gas station.  I keep grocery bags and Clorox wipes in the truck.  I put one on my hand to pump fuel and wipe off my card when I pull it out of the machine with the wipe.  Bologna sandwich and I'm good to go.  I'm not stopping that.

[vernon]

Logical thinking and rational reasoning when implementing these "policies" can pretty much be summed up in three letters - "CYA".

If anyone asks for clarification as to whether or not they can do something 99% of the time the answer is gonna be "no" and a new restriction has instantly been created.

The resort we're supposed to be checking into on 1 May is closed until at least 30 April so I would imagine we're screwed.

Unless we hear otherwise I guess we'll still prepare as if we're gonna go but at some point pretty soon they're gonna have to start backing off some of this stuff we're gonna become Venezuela.  

Nationwide poverty kills too and the long term effects will stick around far longer than this virus.

[Quillback]

1 hour ago, vernon said:

 

The resort we're supposed to be checking into on 1 May is closed until at least 30 April so I would imagine we're screwed.

 

Yeah another thing that peeves me is this arbitrary assignment of dates when things MIGHT reopen.  Covid isn't going away anytime soon, it's not going to miraculously disappear by say May 15 s an example.  We need some benchmarks on when it will be OK to reopen things so that people can plan for when to get back to work or school.  

[bobby b.]

2 hours ago, aarchdale@coresleep.com said:

I get gas at the pump tow the boat to the lake and have not contact with anyone all day.  But yet i had to make a grocery run to walmart yesterday in Ozark. It was about the busiest i have ever seen it. And the idiots put caution tape up around all the entrances except one, now everyone is forced to funnel past each other out of one set of doors. 

I was at Walmart in Branson West yesterday and saw the same thing at the entrance and when I asked the employee told me it is so that we maintain 6 ft from each other but it seems to do just the opposite.

[bobby b.]

2 hours ago, aarchdale@coresleep.com said:

I get gas at the pump tow the boat to the lake and have not contact with anyone all day.  But yet i had to make a grocery run to walmart yesterday in Ozark. It was about the busiest i have ever seen it. And the idiots put caution tape up around all the entrances except one, now everyone is forced to funnel past each other out of one set of doors. 

I was at Walmart in Branson West yesterday and saw the same thing at the entrance and when I asked the employee told me it is so that we maintain 6 ft from each other but it seems to do just the opposite.

[bobby b.]

Wife just told me, she read that Walmart will be limiting customers in the store to 20% of normal - whatever that is.

Also this website might have a virus as it doubled my recent text above.  😁

[vernon]

9 minutes ago, bobby b. said:

Wife just told me, she read that Walmart will be limiting customers in the store to 20% of normal - whatever that is.

Also this website might have a virus as it doubled my recent text above.  😁

SHUT IT DOWN AND SPACE OUT THOSE POSTS!!

At least until, oh, let's say 26 April at 7:18 pm..........🤧

[tjm]

1 hour ago, bobby b. said:

this website might have a virus

I told y'all last week to wash yer hands before typing those posts.

Expiration dates will just get extended, interpret them as being indefinite. There will be at least a year before any kind of prevention is available in the form of vaccine and until then the total lack of governmental preparedness will keep every agency in reactionary status. Daily or weekly or monthly reports are just BS to keep the pols in the spotlight and keep the voters aware of them. All of these restrictions are not for stopping or controlling the spread of the virus, they are aimed at limiting the  numbers needing ventilators and intensive medical care   til the medical supply system catches up. At some point the system will reach a point where they can manage more intensive care cases and the mortuaries can handle more deaths and that is when the shutdowns will ease up. 

We will all have SARS-CoV-2 eventually, if we don't die first of some some other reason. My hope is that the authorities will soon concentrate on a test that shows who has already survived it and turn those folks back to work, this random seclusion of people by job category just keeps many at home that have no chance of contracting it again or of carrying it, while letting other more vulnerable folks be exposed daily.  

We did a grocery pick  up at Walmart (first time for us) yesterday and got Her medications at curbside too, they have temporarily  reserved 4 parking spaces for Rx pickups and are training additional associates in outside sales, card only. My big observation of the day is that almost no one knows what 6' is and there needs be a general distribution of 6' sticks so these people can maintain a safe distance. 6' is two really long steps, perhaps 3 arm lengths. The average "social distance'' of people actually trying to maintain one was about 44" nose to nose, by guess.

[dan hufferd]

Next new business idea....drive through bait shop!